Whites And Asians Have With Black People MOD ALERT

Actually, I correct myself. I think among the working classes and around the bottom, the individual cultures are largely maintained. But in the middle classes and up, there seems to be a more complete assimilation. I suppose it may be they imitate their class equals, and at those levels American's tend to be more formal in appearance.

 

White people are coming apart...differentiated between elite and non-elite. In many ways non-elite whites seem like a broken people.

 

It seems like they were always apart to me, ever since the beginning, but there just have been things that distracted them from coming to a boiling point over the issue. The closest thing I can think of was the great disparity between workers and owners in the days of Carnegie and Rockefeller, where the concept of purchased government was a foregone conclusion. That divide has only increased since then, but the overall focus of attention was on wars, racism, wars, and racism, aside from the Great Depression.

I honestly can't tell where the country is headed , but when I see the rise of nationalization in Europe, and see the same sentiments growing in America, I shiver. It's like watching a violent mob form right before your eyes and you hope things just die down before it explodes.

 

I wish all young Americans could have known the Golden Age when America bestrode the world like a colossus. It was a hopeful and confident country. It was only after the victory in WWII that the American middle class really took off.

You have no idea what it was like to see that world pass into history. My tears fell like rain.

 

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There are plenty of studies correlating testosterone and violence

What is so great about being a pilot? There are black leaders -so what? Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton are hardly anything to be proud of.

There has never been a black nobel prize winner in any science or a fields medal winner

 

What utter utter nonsense. The World is full of such examples. The History of England is full of people that have conquered others and assimilated them. England's Celtic forebears are one such group, another is the danish people of the East of England -utterly assimilated.

Or there is Finland where two entirely different peoples have utterly assimilated.

Then there is the USA with endless examples of how different peoples have fused together- German Dutch Scandavaian, French people have assimilated into the Anglo Norm with ,barring surnames and a few local customs' utterly assimilated into the dominant culture.

So I have no idea whatsoever where this claim comes from. I can only assume you have just made it up.

However there is ENDLESS examples of how multiculturalism and Multi national states lead to disaster.

Yugoslavia, Sudan, Iraq, Syria, Sri Lanka are places in the last few years who have seen the worst atrcities and all of them are multicultural states with massive internal warfare by competing ethnic groups.

Multiculturalism a is a disaster.

And they have all fallen aaprt in ethnic strife

 

While the statistical evidence proves otherwise I will share an anacdotal story to make a point.

I worked with a well educated and very articulate African-American professional (mechanical engineer) that looking to purchase a new home. There were no "ethnic" traces in his speech and he called the sales office for a new housing tract and discussed purchasing a home with the sales representative. In "selling" a potential buyer the sales representative states, "You'll really like our community. We only have one Mexican family living here and we don't allow any (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s (the n-word) to buy here." My friend made an appointment and when he walked in and introduced himself to the sales representative the man's jaw dropped in disbelief.

The point being that the statement that being articulate, polite, and even well educated ensures racial equality for African-Americans is pure BS because racial prejudice and overt racism by Whites that denies equality to African-Americans. The "racist" will say that it does but that's a well known lie. Statistical analysis and scientific studies have proven that when two men, a white man and a black man, both apply for the same job and have equal experience and capabilities the odds are 3 to 1 that the white man will always get the job because of racial prejudice. Studies have also shown that even when a black man gets a job he will, on the average, be paid less and afforded less opportunity for advancement because of racial prejudice. The denial of equality in opportunity is a fundamental violation of the individual's inalienable Rights as a person, period.

 

Yeah. But the consequences for other people were not so glorious, so it's hard for me to feel pride in it. It's good for your country to do well, but when you know it's at the expense of other people in other countries then it kind of wanes after a time. The repercussions of that may have been expressed in the WTC attacks and the current anti-American sentiment around the world.

Looking at China's economic strategy in the mid-East and Africa, it seems like they have simply accessed markets by playing the direct opposite of American foreign policy. They help instead of coerce. They forgave debts and offered to build roads and infrastructures without charging ridiculous prices, and China offers these countries fair prices in contrast to the US or the World Bank. So while the US had the might and strength to do what it wanted, it abused it.

I think the US should follow suit, but in a sense, it's probably true that they can not. I don't know, but you are right. It's not a good feeling to see your country sink in the world, and I while I don't like it, I can understand why some would advocate for things like nationalization and the like. Desperate men are willing to do anything.

Yes, Sab, but they are not definitive scientific facts. You could say their is a correlation to big feet and large penis's, but that's not always the case. Neither is high testosterone and violence.

A pilot is a skilled trade, nothing more really. It's just an example, but there are business owners, professors, authors, musicians, generals, doctors, scientists, heart surgeons...

And I do not consider Al Sharpton of Jesse James leaders. Not the kind that I would write a book about in any case. Jesse Jackson used to be effective, but those days are gone. Al Sharpton never struck me as anything more than an opportunist and I credit his existence as another burden on the Black community...in my opinion.

 

Maybe you are thinking of assimilation as another culture respecting and even adopting aspects of the host countries culture. That's still multi-culturalism because I don't think these people simply dump their own culture and perfectly assimilate into the next.

Why don't you just say race? Your argument seems more directed to different races entering your community than different cultures. I don't see the arrival of different cultures into a community as inherently destructive. Even you own national culture is actually made up of many aspects of culture from all over. Multiculturalism just seems like the politically correct term for racism.

All countries have problems both within their borders and outside. Pick any nation you want, and I can bet I will find troubles both among its own people, with it's neighbors, with people far beyond it's borders. Your using a race with no consequential footprint as a scapegoat for the troubles in your home. Meanwhile, the actual people who are responsible for the economic problems get away with it. But, of course, it is always easier to rise against the weak and unprotected than to face formidable adversaries.

 

So what if its not always the case. I never said all black people have high testosterone or all black people are criminals or all black people are atheletes they are statistically significantly more likely to be these things.

Oh nonsense. you are playing the dishonest game leftists play of constantly changing the meanings of words. Multiculturallism is a practice or a desire to encourage the non assimilation of people.

because they don't ,mean the same thing.

 

In one sense this is true. It's been over 145 years since the fall of the Confederacy and the ratification of the 13th Amendment (although Mississippi just submitted it's ratification, the last state to do so, to the 13th Amendment this year). It's been 145 years since the ratification of the 14th Amendment that promised equality to ALL People in the United States. That has, by any argument, been more than enough time to end the racial oppression of African-Americans in the United States but it hasn't happened. Anti-Black racism not only existed in several of the former Confederate States but was enshrined into the laws of those States until the 1960's a full 100 years after the Civil War. The KKK lead the march of racial discrimination for over 100 years and today we have Stormfront and Combat 18 fueling the racist propaganda machines. Over 1/2 of Americans today exhibit explicit racial prejudice against African-Americans and that is inexcusable from any perspective. It is long since time that we change our beliefs of bigoted racial prejudice and time is indeed running out for us to do this.

But how long will it take before "white" Americans will end their racial prejudice? How long before we, as a people, ensure equality for ALL People including African-Americans which was promised 145 years ago? We haven't even been able to eliminate discrimination under the laws of the United States which are reflected in our immigration laws today so how hard is it going to be to eliminate the invidious discrimination being committed by over 1/2 of the US population?

Yes, it is time for racial prejudice by individuals to end. We don't have forever to accomplish this so it will take a massive push by Americans, not our government, to end the racial prejudice, discrimination, and oppression of any individuals in America. This is the most urgent issue I'm aware of in America today so I stand up and fight against the racial prejudice, discrimination and oppression of People by "white" Americans. I invite others to join in this fight against the tyranny imposed by "white" people in America. Either we fight against racism or we support it. Less racism is still racism which violates the inalienable Rights of the Person. Do we, as Americans, support the inalienable Rights of the Person or not is a simply question that each of us must answer. The "racist" does not support those Rights and never has.

BTW good link. It points out the problem which has been invidious racism since the Civil War and that racism must come to an end.

Two points, I'm not a "progressive liberal" (leftist) but an advocate for the inalienable Rights of the Person. While this is not an uncommon trait among "liberals" (while being a very rare trait among social conservatives) there are numerous differences between a libertarian such as myself and a progressive liberal of today.

There is also a misconception that "equality for all" equates to degradation of the white working and middle class. For example, the ending of discrimination in employment which is widespread related to African-Americans would result in reduced poverty and that would result in fewer dollars required for welfare programs that mitigate the effects of poverty. Our "white" discrimination creates proverty in the African-American communities and have an obligation to mititgate the effects of the poverty we create. Many racists believe that eliminating the discrimination in employment means fewer "white" jobs but the opposite is true. More employment for African-Americans creates more demand for products (consumerism) which fuels our economy creating more jobs. Discrimination in employment creates poverty that must be mitigated by taxation and spending (welfare) which reduces consumption and results in fewer jobs. As I noted by analogy if we treated the United States like a corporation it would be stupid for a corporation to not fully utilize 13% of the employees, instead just giving them just enough money to barely live on, and that's basically what the US is doing with invdious racial discrimination against African-Americans.

Let us remember that the American Dream is not a "White Dream" and everyone needs to prosper to realize it. We cannot build real wealth based upon oppression but instead can build wealth for All Americans but utilizing every single person in America to create America's wealth. It is true that there are "white elitists" that have exploited the rest of Americans with unfair tax policies where their wealth grows at the lowest possible tax rates and that should be addressed. There is no logical reason why the income of an investor (and investors, that are overwhelmingly white, do not create jobs inspite of "Republican" propaganda) should be taxed at substantially lower rates than the income of a hard working American. Yes, we need fairness in all that we do from taxation to employment where there isn't discrimination.

We need to level the playing field for ALL Americans and we're far from doing that. We need to do this NOW and that is a challenge for each of us. It is not something where we can just throw our hands up in the air and give up the very ideals upon which American was founded. We must strive for the Dream and do so with renewed vigor.

 

All people who are US citizens have equality under the law

How does the government currently racialy oppress black people? As far as I can see it falls over backwards to give them special rights

That's 50 years ago. Two whole generations. Can't blame the past forever.

A Tiny group of disenfranchised white trash

Let us remember that the American Dream is not a "White Dream" and everyone needs to prosper to realize it.

Who says it is inexcusable? If Certain racial groups collectively present certain unacceptable behaviours then it is entirely normal that people will be prejudiced against them. Also the left always condone racism commited by black people (and indeed invents an interpretation of the term to exclude black people)

What laws discriminate against Black people ? How does your immigration law affect black people?

But the prejudice against white people can just stay? Black politicians are openly racist and get away with it. Inter racial rape is a hate crime almost exclusively committed by black men against white women. The reverse is tiny.

the discrimination is IN FAVOUR of black people not against them

 

That was the official line after the Civil War.

There is no racial oppression by the government. The problem is the community has to deal with racial oppression from the recent past. It wasn't more than a generation or two, and though it may seem easy, institutionalized suppression and wide-spread poverty do not change overnight.

There are the obvious Nazi's and then there are the simply racist people. If you include the racist people, the number expands considerably.

The American dream did not always apply to everyone. You know how they say when you cage an animal over a long period of time it loses it's ability to fend for itself. Well, this country has caged Black people for a very long time, and after the let them out the cage, they just treated them like trash for an extended amount of time. Now you want to complain because they have trouble orienting themselves in the country. You think the culturally racist views of the US just disappear with the passing of legislation?

You take an extensive amount of time looking at the Black culture, but look at the White culture. Look back into your past. If technology and power are the only things you can come up with, then those are not virtues. No one is perfect, I understand, but it seems like you absolutely commit yourself to targeting the moral and societal flaws of a community that is largely the product of White traditional morality and virtue.

But the most frustrating thing is the people like you who like to de-rail them act like you have given them all the support and blessings your heart could give when that is not true. They have had to deal with the same negative bile and the same cultural perception since the very first day they were brought here. Your own words reflect that hostility. It's not any sign of positive encouragement, it's "Look at these filthy animals." For the advancements they have achieved under such conditions, I consider it remarkable. I hope they achieve greater things in the future. and if they do, it will be because of no help from people like you.

 

Racism doesn't disappear with legislation. And in a number of cases, it's not even intentional racism. For instance, if I were to ask you if you were racist, you would likely say no. Then I ask you to imagine, with your viewpoints, that you are an employer. A white man and a black man submit a resume. Each have basically equivalent credentials and experience. Who are you likely to hire?

Affirmative action was never widespread. It was an official policy in name only, but not many Black people were hired as a result of affirmative action, and the entire affair only served as an emabarassment to the community, leading both sides of that policy to distance themselves from it. Handouts and special programs are given to the needy, but it's not like they were handing out gold ingots, nor have they been handed out for a very long time.

Don't you agree that Nazi's are not the only people with negative views toward Black people?

Racism...does...not...disappear...with...legislation. Just because someone tells you to stop hating someone, doesn't mean you stop hating them. Certainly not instantly.

I get the feeling you don't look for a positive change in Black people, or contribute to it, or even endorse it. You don't look at them as citizens or potental citizens, probably not even people. I think you just seize upon whatever you can to fuel an innate resentment towards them. You can't appreciate the evidence of incremental change in a broken community because you don't want to. There's a Black President, there are Black generals, doctors, all of that. But you'll focus on what they aren't "No Black's ever invented nuclear physics, have they? Huh? Huh?"

Did you ever think that people like you exist in government, and positions of influence where they have the ability to unofficially impede black communities? Maybe they are employers who find it uncomfortable having too many blacks around. Maybe they are in the police, who enter the academy with the mindset that they are at war with savages. If you can imagine that, you can see a little of what it's like to be the target of prejudice and what effect it may have on you, young or old.

I don't think I have met any Black person who feels entitled to anything. From what I have seen, they feel like they will be last-choice for anything of worth. Sure, they will get hired for all the low-case jobs, but even should they have he proper credentials, they feel they must be twice as good as a white person to get the same job because of enduring perceptions.

To me, they may be given a little bit here and there, but you make it seem like they have been handed half the nation. Generally, I agree with you on the current conditions, but unlike you, I concentrate on the growth of the community, not the worst of it. It's not about being more moral either, it's about helping other American's, not kicking them in the gut and spitting on them.

Of course not.

 

I'll respond to you guys when I have time. But the lack of realization of the transformation the white working and middle classes are undergoing in terms of consciousness is pretty astounding.

 

If black people can;t get hired by white people then why not hire themselves. Jews and other minority groups arrived in the USA pennyless, they couldn;t speak the language, had been oppressed in their own countries and yet they became wealthy in a generation by starting their own stores and businesses. Go into a black neighbourhd and Koreans own the local stores, why aren't black people owning their own stores?

So get rid of them all

Lots of people have negative views. Me included, well American black people anyway. Its different in Africa

Obviously. People don;t like black people because of the way they act.

Black president -elected because he was black and he is useless (and I'm way more liberal than he is)

once more where is the black merchant class? Why do blacks always have to have government jobs (answer because they are given them) instead of running their own businesses?

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Don;t beleive you for an instant

bull(*)(*)(*)(*) they get hired by affirmative action programs . Then they get promoted because they are black.

WHy do you have to do either? Get on with your life and stop trying to interfere in other people's livee

 

Well, you're not going to like my answer, but if blacks behaved better in the civilized western world, your work colleague wouldn't have been treated that way. Is it fair to him? Of course not. But you can't blame Whites for not wanting to live or be around blacks in this day and age when you're almost 10 times more likely to be killed, raped or robbed by them.

It's obviously a vicious circle and it's that way because the majority of blacks don't want to assimilate. I can't believe you cannot see that. You think Whites avoid blacks because they don't want the brownness of their skin to rub off on them?? Geezus, gimme a break! You can see with your own eyes that black violent crime is at an unacceptably high level where ever there are a large population of blacks. It's like blaming ordinary humans who don't want to camp out in the jungle with lions and tigers (although some nutjobs try to do that )

Something has to give. And forcing Whites to ignore violent crime and give priority to a group who are clearly causing more domestic terrorism within their society is not the answer. You can't ask people with eyes to walk around every day life with their eyes closed. The only way it'll work is if the majority blacks get over themselves and just behave like civilized human beings. And I'm not even talking about just violent crime either. I have a nice black woman who lives a few doors away from me. I don't think she's involved in any violent crime and she's really polite whenever she sees me. But this doesn't stop her nonchalantly smoking weed outside which stinks up the whole street, playing loud obnoxious music to late at night, shouting at her partner as a means of communication everytime they talk and leaving stale garbage outside her front door. She's a nice lady, but who wants to live next to that? This is the thing with most blacks, they're either no good in some way or ridiculously obnoxious. (And she's only one example of hundreds I could use)

(Before you tell me to ask her nicely to stop doing all those things, I have asked her to stop playing loud music till late at night and now she does it less than usual )

I think it's a great thing that sales representative didn't want to sell to blacks. People want to get away from them and for good reason.

Shiva, you've always come across as an intelligent person to me. It really baffles me how you're so biased towards blacks when these negative things I talk of are plain as day to even the most dimwitted liberal. You act as if blacks can do no wrong.

 

And I don't believe for a minute that the story is true.

Here in Thailand many condos have a no Russians policy because of the behavior of Russians.

The left's answer is normally to deny that there is more crime or to blame it on white society

The loud music seems to be a major issue.

ideology can do that.

 

Oh, I don't doubt it. It could've happened. I believe Shiva, but who knows?

Exactly and that's a great example. Thank you for sharing that. I applaud the Thai's or whoever did that for implementing that policy if Russians are behaving badly. It's not their (Russians) country and they have no right to act rowdy and uncivilized around other people trying to live a quiet, peaceful life. Good for them!

Naturally. I see it all too often. It's almost childlike behaviour and a very pathetic argument. But the left have never been accused of acting like grown-ups as far as I'm aware.

It really is and it's something that is constantly an issue in every black majority neighbourhood. Lefties like to overlook these issues when we discuss the problems of living around blacks. But all these little issues contribute to White Flight. I've seen things in the black majority neighbourhood's I've lived in that would turn most peoples hair pink. Blacks have a naturally lower standard of living.

I don't know. Maybe you're right, but denial of things that are right infront of your nose is unhealthy and weird. Even most liberals don't deny every single thing racial realists say.

 

Zook - There is liberals and there is Leftists/Progressives

I'm a liberal. I beleive in the standard liberal package- Gay rights, Gun control,Socialized medicine, legalisation of drugs, animal rights, Abortion rights for women.

What I cannot agree with is that a group of people get 'free pass' to commit incredible levels of crime and stay dependent on society for either hand outs or government jobs based on oppression their grandparents experienced.

Look at the US postal service as an example.

 

I know. The US is transitioning into a new historical era in which racial justice is irrelevant. The American left shouldn't have used the accusation of racism as a sword with which to silence those with whom it disagrees. There is a new school of thought arising. Racial justice is simply irrelevant given the new conditions in the country.

How can that be you ask? It can be because the continued existence of Uncle Sam is antithetical to the white working and middle classes.

Don't think wealthy whites get off scot free. Hell is coming for them. Everything must be stripped from them.

In the years to come African Americans will look back on the era from 1954 to the present as the Golden Age for race relations. El tormento aqui.

I think your sentence should have used the past participle tense because time is up. In California where I live it's already a new day for African Americans. Mexicans don't tolerate their behavior. Mexicans will cleanse them in due course in order to make their neighborhoods safe. East Asians have no use for African Americans. And Asian Americans feel no guilt. Why should they. In California the white working and middle classes are much diminished. Only the wealthy white liberals could help California African Americans...and as far as I'm concerned those rich white people have zero future. Zero future.

The time for racial justice came and went. There is only one way in which racial justice could have been possible. And that is within the context of an expanding economy with lots of good jobs. Leftists won't permit the creation of good jobs. Instead the economy will sputter and living standards for all but the white elite will decline.

I don't agree with the half portion you cite.

I went to a meeting last night at the local grange. I walked in late and stood in the back. There were at least a couple of hundred people in the audience. About half of the people were old white men. The other half were young white men. I was surprised. The struggle is between left and right. One side wins...the other side loses...or Uncle Sam dies.

We may win, we may lose, but we will never be here again. I agree entirely with the conclusion of the Slate article. Abandon hope for Uncle Sam.

I know.

Americans of all types are generally poorly educated. The white working and middle classes are experiencing the decline of their living standards. They can see that their children and grandchildren will live much degraded lives. They are consumed with fear and anger. They want someone to blame. Who should they blame? Rich whites and African Americans are the perfect scapegoats. No offense intended. It's just business.

The American Dream is over. You ever read any Andrew Bacevich? He wrote American Empire. That which cannot be sustained will not be sustained.

Here's the deal. America as we have known it is over. Read the foreign press. Their treatment of the Great American Retreat is fascinating. Uncle Sam can't cope with the new realities in the world.

I think Uncle Sam is going to give up the ghost. I know it's difficult for most Americans to accept this. But they have no answer to why they should be exempt from the forces and processes of history. I have seen this all before. Oswald Spengler understood a kernel of the truth. There is a rhythm in the rise and fall of civilizations. But he missed the element of chaos. But then even Einstein failed to unite the general theory of relativity with the existence of quantam mechanics.

To the young I say: Come with me if you want to live.

 

The ideology of America was established in 1776 with these words.

This is the ideology of the American People, not the government, and it is an ideology that we as individuals must strive to achieve. It is the goal for each of us and if we abandon this goal then "America" ceases to exist. There are those today, specifically the White Nationalists, that have already abandoned this ideological foundation for America and they are not "Americans" anymore. They can complain about others being in America but in truth they are the ones that don't belong here because they don't believe in America. They belong to a dispicable history of oppression and tyranny which is what Americans rebeled against in 1776. They have no linkage to the ideological foundation upon which America was established. The Southern slave owners actually had more in common with the ideological foundation for America than the White Nationalists of today because many were involved in the actively involved in ending of slavery but today that White Nationalists choose to regress as opposed to progress towards our ideological goal. Zachery Taylor, a slave owner, opposed the expansion of slavery into the West as the president a decade before Lincoln. Thomas Jefferson, a slave owner and drafter of the Declaration of Independence cited above, was actively opposed to slavery his entire life.

We have never reached the ideological goal established for America and probably never will but the only important thing is that we keep striving for it. We know that at best it will be two steps forward and one step back but we must keep taking those steps forward because if we don't then all is lost. America will disappear as a nation and all that we have gained over our 200 plus years of history will be lost.

The White Nationalists propose the destruction of America and our very survival as a nation is at stake. If we can rationalize the violations of the inalienable Rights of a person based upon the color of their skin we can rationalize the violations of anyone's inalienable Rights for any reason we choose. If we can violate a person's inalienable Rights because they have dark skin we can violate the inalienable Rights of a person because they have red hair, or blue eyes, or because they're too tall or too short or overweight or underweight or for any nefarious reason we might choose because we've removed the criteria of equality for all people.

Perhaps it's time to remember a poem about the Nazis that could be adapted to address White Nationalism in America today....

White Nationalism and racism in general violates the core ideology of what it means to be an American and threatens the very existance of the United States as a nation.

 

From a scientifically conducted study in 2012:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/27/poll-black-prejudice-america/1662067/

Typically I only refer to "explicit" racial prejudice because "implicit" is a more subjective measurement where "explicit" is where a person is openly expressing racial prejudice. As noted this was based upon scientifically conducted surveys and there is one important thing to consider.

People can have any personal beliefs they choose but science presents facts regardless of what a person chooses to believe.

There have been no studies that contradict the findings from these studies. NONE! So what someone chooses to believe is fundamentally irrelevant because the studies are presenting undisputed facts related to racial prejudice in the United States. Don't like the "facts" then provide a scientific study that contradicts them showing different percentages of those with explicit (or implicit) racial prejudice.

For example, show me a study that establishes a different percentage of Republicans with racial prejudice that contradicts the 79%, or basically that 4 out of 5 Republicans are racially prejudiced, as established by this study. Is it only 3 out of 4? Is it only 50%? Show me a scientific study that disputes this study as opposed to simply expressing a personal opinion that denies the results of the study.

 

The problem isn't "Uncle Sam" and that is an excuse for those that refuse to accept that each of us are responsible for the problem.

Those that rationalize the torture of individuals by our government which violates the inalienable Rights of the Person and our ideology as Americans are the problem.

Those that rationalize the violation of the Rights of the Accused and due process of the law in a criminal case (e.g. GITMO detainees) that violates the inalienable Rights of the Person and our ideology as Americans are the problem.

Those that advocate extra-judicial executions (i.e. murder under the law) which violates the inalienable Rights of the Person are the problem.

Those that advocate US foreign military interventionism to promote pax-American in foreign lands that violate the inalienable Rights of the Person in those nations are the problem.

Those that have racial prejudice that results in discrimination and oppression of the individual that violates their inalienable Rights of the Person and our ideology as Americans are the problem.

It isn't our government that's the problem, its our problem. Blaming Uncle Sam merely reflects individual denial of personal responsibility for the violations of the ideals upon which America was founded by our government. We, the People, can demand that our government respect the ideological foundation upon which America was established but only if we, the People, live by that ideology.