Who's to blame for the Herman Cain scandal?

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  1. Corfieldb

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    I'm not sure.

    Somebody did some digging on this because the one thing we know is that it didn't come from the Cain Campaign. (If I'm wrong on this, then Mr. Cain gets the brass balls award of the year...)

    Was it the team at Politico digging into Cain's past that came up with this? Were they tipped off by a rival campaign? Did the Obama Administration have anything to do with this? Was it, in fact, a smear job?

    Let's start with the last question first. According to Merriam-Webster's online dictionary, "smear" means a usually unsubstantiated charge or accusation against a person or organisation - often used attributively <a smear campaign> <a smear job>

    For this to be a smear job, it would have to be totally fabricated. Even the Cain organisation now admits there was an investigation, a finding of some unknown determination and a payout of an uncertain amount. Given the confidentiality agreements in place, which prevent the two women from telling their side of the story, its obviously lacking details. Which is quite different from not existing. Something Herman Cain did while head of the National Restaurant Association offended two different women, proved substantial enough for the organisation to conduct an internal investigation and resulted in cash settlements for the women in question to sign confidentiality agreements and leave the company.

    So, this matter has not been fabricated...

    It may have been small beans. It may have been the most innocent...

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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cain most likely made enemies while a CEO and somehow the incident was filtered back to either the other republican candidates or media who of course pounced on it as it would generate ratings and ratings = advertising dollars. Politics most likely played a role in it as well.
     
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    I think it very well could have come from the Cain campaign. I recently heard that yesterday was his biggest fundraising day of his campaign because of this incident. I don't think it would be too hard for his campaign manager to organize something like this and keep it under wraps. That and they know it isn't damaging to him at all unless it happens to be true.

    If it wasn't from the Cain campaign, then who? Democrats and liberals would have saved something like this until after the primaries. The other republicans would hopefully be smart enough to know that such an incident would give him way too much publicity.
     
  4. Corfieldb

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    That's just some amazing, well...something if Cain generated this. The timing seems odd. He'd already gotten a nice bump in the polls of late, why play this card now?

    Its a ballsy move if he did, I'll give you that...
     
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    I wouldn't put it past herman Cain to have popped this himself , considering the felony charges he could face if found guilty of campaign law violations which by the way are getting next to nothing in coverage by mainstream media
     
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    Politico was tipped off ahead of time about this story anonymously from what I read with just enough information to dig further with.

    I don't know a single man who has never made a pass at one of his female coworkers at some point in his career. So if Herman cain made a clumsy pass at a woman or two in his.. BFD.

    We just had a new training course on sexual harrassment and legally, there has to be a defined pattern of unwanted behavior and/or a quid pro quo involved in order to qualify as harrassment.

    Unless someone can show me where Herman Cain offered a promotion, or some other benefit to a woman in exchange for sexual favors or established a pattern of unwanted harrassment, these charges are unfounded.
     
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    I don't see where you can say the charges are unfounded, apparently lawyers representing Cain thought the allegations were worth almost 40 k to keep quiet in 1993. That's just one case ... The other woman hasn't disclosed the amount she was paid. The big story is Cains alleged felony campaign violations. That's serious (*)(*)(*)(*).... And it's getting no play.
     
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    Herman Cain.
     
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    My thoughts exactly. Whether rightfully or wrongfully......

    ...one should always be aware of their actions.
     
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    40k is nuisance value. That's wasn't even the upper threshold for what insurance companies would pay to avoid going to court. Back then, our insurance company wanted to pay a woman $60k when she wasn't hired so they could avoid a sex discrimination suit. I refused to settle and we won but insurance companies always wimp out.
     
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    I don't know a years salary to get away from a stressful situation, possible hostile work environment, and give you plenty of time to look for employment elsewhere before money gets tight? Sounds like a fair exchange for their silence, which is exactly what they were actually paying for.
     
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    Herman Cains position as a high profile CEO has alot more to lose by buying silence than by proving his innocence.... As is clearly evident now. A person that has attained a station as lofty as Cains ... In world of backstabbing , bribery, and favors does not leave such a glaring weakness unresolved... You can bet that Cain did whatever he could to minimize the damage... Like all men who reach the highest levels of corrupt office... He is a predator and a megalomaniac... He thought he could bury this...... Little did he know back then that this little incident would serve him well in distracting the mob from his true crimes.
     
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    I already a posted similar thread ..and you guys haven't figured it out yet.

    I dont give a rats behind about If the story was or should have been posted..it was ..The main deal now is 2 fold..
    Who paid and profited from the exposure and how Cain responds.

    Cain just blows off the dis similar explanations as forgetfulness..word definition or out right smears.
    I can just bet what you would say about those things if Romney said similar.
    Flip flops ?

    If you just say he is bold and fresh I might say you are full of it..
    what ever Cain is selling..I aint buying.
    We know less of this man than we did of Obama.

    Dont get fooled again.
     
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    Well..Herman Cain for doing what he did those years ago.
     
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    He is, of course. But what I find fascinating is that the big story in the world yesterday was Greece's Prime Minister Papandreou causing the world markets to crash, yet the big story in the US was Herman Cain. American media seems to be out of touch with the world.
     
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    Aww the corporate media and their ability to deflect. It&#8217;s no wonder the USA is only a shadow of it&#8217;s formal self.
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    I've been vocal on this subject, mainly the legal aspect of civil gag orders and why are they considered legal, but I actually feel sorry for the guy.
     
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    I agree, rather sad actually.

    **shakes head**
     
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    Feel sorry for the Guy ?

    Politics is NOT just a Government sector deal.
    Junk like this happens all the time in the real private business world..

    Why would anyone want to reward this behavior and make him the most powerful man in the world is just plain wrong.
    We cant do a thing about crappy..penile bosses we work for.

    How ever we cain when they work for us..:)
    Send the message ..loud and clear.

    Cheats ..liars ..frauds.. need not apply.
     
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    You must not have been watching any news outlet except Fox.

    The problem with the Eurozone and Greece was 20 minutes out of every hour on BBC, MSNBC, and PBS news.
     
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    Why would I watch Fox????????

    No, the big story in America on Tuesday was Herman Cain. (And why would anyone in their right mind watch MSNBC??????)
     
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    1 of 2 easy answers...

    If he did it, him...

    If he didn't, politics...
     
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    Sure, he is trying so hard to be something he will never be. Kinda pathetic actually. Him and Obummer, two turtles sitting on posts on the same fence line. One facing left one facing right.
     
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    Agreed. It was his mess from the late 90's. Doesn't matter whether he did or did not actually sexually harass someone back then. The issue is that there was a settlement, and at least a mini-scandal, that he should have been better prepared to deal with now. He fumbled this pretty badly.
     
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    What difference does it make who started it; what is profoundly idiotic about this story is the lamestream media's attempts to savage a man's reputation with nothing more than anonymous heresay and an issue that occurred a decade ago.

    Instead of talking issues we are worried about these easily offended women and their inability to deal with men and why Kim Kardashian's marriage failed; REALLY? Meanwhile the economy continues to flounder, 14 million Americans are still desperately seeking work and Obama is spending time on the Riviera sitting on the sidelines watching panic spread in Europe over debt.

    The state of affairs in the lamestream media have degenerated to beyond pathetic.
     
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