Who's to blame for the Herman Cain scandal?

Personally--I don't really care. For all we know these two women were lousy at their jobs and sought to get some easy money before being fired. It wouldn't keep me from voting for him in the Primary. But his lack of experience would.

But I will vote for whoever gets the Republican nomination. That's how bad I beleve Obama is!

 

My biggest issue w/ Cain is how he constantly contradicts himself... I don't know if he's lying or just unaware...

 

There could be hundreds of individuals, organizations, or businesses to be blamed for the leak.

The positives to the leak:
1) Surge in media: highest YouTube and Wikipedia hits the last week. Highest trending 2012 candidate on Twitter.
2) Consistent publishing of mainstream news articles over the last week. The only candidate who received more attention was Obama, but Cain blew the other candidates out of the water with the press.

The negatives to the leak:
1) Cain's intrade share price dropped fairly significantly
2) The Politic it neural network is predicting him behind Romney now in the polls

On the upside though he still has enjoyed a steady increase in Facebook and Twitter followers. Klout has also been trending upwards. He now has the highest Klout score of all the candidates.

 

Herman Cain is responsible for the Herman Cain scandal. And his campaign director is obviously incompetent.

 

I cant wait till the next real debate.

When Cain says this whole episode is "off limits..and it's in the past"

and Romney replies.." Gee Herman..I have talked about my heath care plan in Mass. for 5 years..I have explained it every which way from Sunday over and over..Do I get to tell America this is off limits ? " OR...

" My stance on abortion has been explained quite thoroughly in my mind...MOVE on "
and Do you think Democrats will just ignore the whole deal ?

I dont think so.

 

Come on JP5 admit it, you would vote the republican party line if Reagan was the democrat nominee.
　
　
It’s that sort of blind partisanship that has created this political nightmare we are involved in today.

 

I don't think so....they dont want him to be nominated at all! If they can tear him down now, then someone else will get the nomination....something they THINK obama can beat. They know he wouldn't win over Cain!

 

Maybe Mr. Cain himself is responsible for the scandal. I know I didn't grope those women. But if he did nothing wrong, my money is on Rick Perry. Maybe he still has access to Lucianne Goldberg.

 

Well . my opinion , when 4 different women file a class action sexual harrassment charge against 1 man , he's a goner ...

It prolly ain't fair , but where they's smoke , they's fire ,,, and right now , that's burnt grease Restaraunt burnt Pizza smell you smell is Herman Cain's butt starting to Bar-B-Que on the grills of Public Opinion ... and the fire is getting hotter with every day , the media in a frenzy for a story , records are being subpeoned ,,, e-mails , notes , pc hackers ...

Bye Bye Cain as a GOP / hello maybe a Indeoendent ?

 

There was no class action suit..........

Two complaints were filed separately to the NRA... and two others didn't file at all.

 

The Obama team will do this to every single person running for president...right down the line. You'll see. Newt will most likely be next.

This is the work of Valerie Jarrett. Obama simply must win, and they will do whatever it takes. It's how the corrupt operate.

So long as the ends justifies the means...don'tcha know

 

It could have been Cain. It is better that this get out now then when he is on the ticket. That way all his problems are old news by election day.

 

Exactly....some say that the left wouldn't have come out with this until after he was nominated, which would be huge. But....the left doesn't WANT Cain to even be nominated because then they would know right away they LOST the race! They're trying to stop him NOW before it's too late.

OH WELL! Most everyone knows this is a lynching, especially since this last person hired the ambulance chaser Gloria Allred! What a hoot!!

 

And it took 8 posts to get there.

 

Interesting post. Is not any debate with you here over American politics really a rather futile exercise as, in your own words, "you don't really care" about important issues like whether a future POTUS is guilty of sexual harassment or not? I wonder what other important issues you "don't really care" about.

And I also wonder what your position was when the actual POTUS was chased by a lynch mob of bigots for engaging in a consensual sexual act with a certain Monica Lewinksky.

I'm sure you cared then. But maybe I am wrong. Great to see how unwanted sexual harassment is "OK by me" to so many republicans when it involves their own, but acts by Bill Clinton, in privacy, of consensual sex are legitimate areas of interest and high handed moralizing by our Republican Sadducees.

The double standards, candidly admitted by you here, are deliciously entertaining. There is no pretence even at evenhandedness, equity, morality, justice or respect for the law.

Just blind, thuggish and irrational hatred of Obama.

That you would make it so clear, without any embarassment or self consciousness, is, as I say, very interesting indeed. Some (a large number) Republicans no longer have to even pretend to uphold values of decency and fairmindedness, so confident are they of their destiny.

 

Dems will be tickled pink to run against every single one of these mega-losers, all at the same time! Combined they can't win themselves out of a wet paper bag. And they havn't even gone to battle against Obama yet other than with their half-pocket of BS talking points. They are just broken old feather dusters who are being propped up as peacocks.

You sound like Charles Davidson, don'tcha know? But this is some wacky stuff you're believing in. How 'bout... the cons are just out of political gas and smart America ain't gonna push no more?
Dems don't have to do a thing to derail the con train to hell but sit back and laff!

 

Interesting how so many Republicans on here are only concerned about this issue in the context of beating Obama in the election. The issues of right or wrong are so marginalized: they are not in the slightest way important.

Some people might think that this is further evidence of the amoralism of Republicans and just one more indication that Republicans are so obsessed with power that any principle or value must be jetisoned if it in any weakens the political machine.

Which is why of course Americans should vote for the effete, ineffective, image obsessed windbag that is Barack Obama, lest any of these GOP demons are elected. He may be a buffoon, but at least he is a half decent human being, unlike the morally corrupt and monstrously hypocritical opponents he faces.

 

Margot ,, with 4 women ? there will be ....

 

But not to worry..

Cain can speak badly about Muslims.He can rise your taxes.He can joke about killing Latinos on a border fence..he can snip at reporters for asking questions he doesn't want to answer..
Cain can use his position of Authority to troll for white Women..those vulnerable seeking work..
But he will get the support of the Tea party because he isnt MORMON.

Plain and simple.
This guy made the flip flops of any mythical Romney position look trivial.

Next the Tea Party will endorse Newt since he only lied and cheated twice ..only resigned 1 time..But he aint in no cult either.

Pawlenty must be kicking himself in the butt..being duped into quitting so soon.

Romney/Pawlenty 2012.
Quality Matters.

 

Yes, there is some interesting information coming out about this woman...Not sure is all of this is accurate, but we shall see.

Chicago TEA Party Lead Activist on Sharon Bialek: I did not recognize her and I was there all weekend – UPDATED!


by Political Arena Editor Chuck Norton

[There are MANY updates. Please scroll down to examine them. Steven Tucker has found two people who saw Bialek approach Cain after his speech at TEAcon (not before as they said in the presser), but no one in the Chicago TEA Party seems to know who she is or seen her before and as you will see by the details, this story gets stranger by the moment.

The updates are getting more and more interesting Bialek faced multiple liens including an IRS lien in 2009. See update VI. Bialek is described by Gloria Allred and the elite media as a TEA Party Republican, yet her voter registration status is inactive. See Update VII - Editor]

When Sharon Bialek said that he was with Herman Cain at the Chicago TEA Party event with Herman Cain I reached out to one of the key voices and leaders of the Chicago TEA Party C. Steven Tucker and he says “I did not recognize her Chuck and I was there all weekend.”

I have been reaching out to my other friends in the Chicago TEA Party and so far no one recognizes her. Gloria Allred portrayed Bialek as a TEA Party Republican. Having seen her picture Bialek is not someone who goes unnoticed easily.

Tucker comments further:

I have spoken at Tea Party events ALL OVER Chicagoland including TeaCon Midwest 2011 where Gloria Allred says her client “confronted” Herman Cain. I have never seen nor have I ever even heard of a Sharon Bialek.

Bailek has not been seen at any other TEA Party events. Even if she had gone to just one, why go to the one with Herman Cain and no others? It makes no sense.

Sharon Blailek said that this happened in 1996 so where was Blailek when Herman Cain was running for Senate in 2004?

We have been doing internet searches on Sharon Bialek. Her linkedin and all social networking/employer networking sites where her name appears seem to have been scrubbed. When you are telling the truth, why make the attempt to scrub your past? [Note: Her LinkedIn profile is back - Editor]

Speaking of not making sense, why would a supposed Republican TEA Party activist/sympathizer call a known leftist hatchet man like Gloria Allred, as any association with Allred would impune her credibility?

Why would being with Gloria Allred impune Bailek’s credibility?

Gloria Allred, in an attempt to smear California candidate for governor Meg Whitman, exposed her ‘client’ Nikki Diaz to felony charges of forging a Social Security document, tax fraud, identity theft because she had assumed another persons identity, exposed her to deportation, fines and prison, all for asking to be paid mileage for a couple of times when she had to drive to carry out her duties, even though she was paid $23.00 an hour; all for a political smear. And where is Nikki Diaz today?

In this video attorney and Fox News anchor Greta van Susteren takes Gloria Allred to task for misrepresenting the ‘evidence’ she claims to have and for exposing her client to great jeopardy without sufficient cause.

The Media Research Center takes us back to how the elite media treated the 23 women who spoke out against sexual harassment, assault and even credible rape allegations against former President Bill Clinton – LINK.

UPDATE I: This is really indicative of the elite media reaction to this story. Just the stats as of 11-6-2011 via Law Prof. William Jacobson:

Days as of 8 p.m. Eastern today since Politico broke the story – 7

Politico news stories about or mentioning “Herman Cain“: 138

Politico news stories about or mentioning “sexual harassment“: 91

Politico news stories about or mentioning “sexual harassment” not involving Herman Cain: 0

Politico news stories showing what Herman Cain actually did: 0

Politico news stories showing specifically what Herman Cain was accused of: 0

Percentage drop in Herman Cain favorability rating as reported by Politico: 9

Politico news stories about or mentioning “Solyndra“: 9

Politico news stories about or mentioning “Fast and Furious“: 3

Politico news stories about or mentioning “unemployment“: 17

Politico news stories about or mentioning “recession“: 14

I would like to add -

Number of stories quoting an accuser by name: 0

Number of specific allegations made as far as conduct: 0

Number of stories on Bill Ayers: 0

UPDATE II – More on the media reaction via the Marietta Daily Journal:

Former Marietta Mayor Bill Dunaway reports that he was called by reporters this week from the Associated Press and The Washington Post, both trying to dig up dirt on embattled presidential candidate Herman Cain of Georgia. The reporters had somehow heard that Dunaway is former owner of The 1848 House restaurant in Marietta and had been in the restaurant business while Cain was president of the National Restaurant Association.

“They each wanted to know what ‘bad’ things I had heard about him and what ‘bad’ things the NRA members thought of him. I disappointed them in that I neither knew nor heard any bad rumors about him,” Dunaway emailed AT’s Bill Kinney.

“The press is really working hard on Herman,” he concluded. No question about that.

UPDATE III – The Chicago TEA Party is investigating:

Tucker found someone who saw Blailek at TEAcon. Via Steven Tucker:

Chuck, please add this to your blog post. AM 560 WIND General Manager Jeff Reisman and AM 560 WIND morning Radio Personality John Howell witnessed the conversation between Bialek and Herman Cain AFTER Herman’s speech at TeaCon Midwest 2011. Bialek had the timing wrong, but she did indeed talk to him after the speech. John Howell was on the nationally syndicated Micheal Medved show this afternoon talking about it – they’re trying to get Bialek to come on WIND this afternoon to talk about it.

Says Tucker, I can personally guarantee that this woman is NOT a “Tea Party Person”.

UPDATE IV – Sharon Bialek starts a Facebook page today.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003185971759&sk=wall

With all of my contacts in the Chicago Area at this time we have no mutual friends, that includes Chicago TEA Party leaders. This leaves next to no doubt, she is not a TEA Party person as she has been portrayed by implication.

Chicago TEA Party lead activist Steven Tucker, who has 5004 friends, has not one friend in common with Blailek.

Note: Fake Sharon Bialek profiles are now appearing on Facebook. Since one of the friends on the profile linked seems to be a Facebook.com editor it seems more likely than not that this is her new profile. The question of the day is what happened to the old one. She has LinkedIn so it is most unlikely that she had no previous profile before today.

UPDATE V – Bialek goes on a media tour. Here she is on CNN with Piers Morgan. I encourage everyone to watch the video. Bialek is grinning rather strangely while explaining how she was ‘abused’. They had hotel suites and yet she says that it happened in the car? Who tries to make it in the car when you have a hotel suite?

UPDATE VI – Bialek faced multiple liens including an IRS lien in 2009

http://politicalarena.org/2011/11/0...ot-recognize-her-and-i-was-there-all-weekend/

 

Cain isn't ALL Republicans.. He is just Cain.... and he alone is responsible for this scandal.

Who was responsible for the John Edwards, Gary Hart or Clinton scandals..

Who was responsible for Eisenhower's mistress?

Was that the party?

Was that all Democrats?

Was that the Media?

 

So this guy....Obama is responsible for him?

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This is another example of a person who is clueless to the differences between unsubstantiated claims and admitted actions that were lied about under oath.

This is why it is understandable how morons on the left and Socialists can continue to get elected; they need clueless morons who cannot comprehend facts, the truth or reality to keep electing them.

 

Nice personal attack. My point was to challenge those who said they didn't care if the allegations were accurate or not. I do care. If they are accurate then they are serious but of course they have to be proved. If proved then republicans should care about them far more than consensual sex. Some on here have said they don't care what the truth is.

So your whole abusive point is drivel. Try and keep up. If you want to deprive someone of a vote fir being clueless then look at yourself first. I don't have a vote. But I can smell hypocrisy.

 

Smart America? What is smart about electing an inexperienced complete intellectual derelict to the Presidency? Someone who has buried this nation in an additional $4 trillion of debt and record deficits in the trillions?

What is smart about voting for a man who has divided the nation with his offensively stupid divisive rhetoric for political purposes with his class envy message?

The notion that electing or re-electing Obama as being a smart thing borders on insanity and the realm of the lunatics that infest our politics on the left these days.