Why are our young men so effeminate?

Dismissing for the moment the irony that this thread has become a pissing match so often associated with "machismo", I have some thoughts to add to my original reply:

After some thought, it occurred to me that this perceived change in the treatment/portrayal of today's male likely coincides with the advent, and saturation, of mass media; e.g. radio and movies but most notably, television. I don't have any studies to site but my 40+yrs exposure recalls that early portrayal centered around what most would associate with "tough male" perfect dad, consummate handyman, hero with a gun and perhaps an Indian side-kick, etc.

Slowly but surely we've seen that same figure de-evolve into a bumbling idiot worthy of ridicule because he can't figure out how to keep his wife happy or even pour a bowl of cereal.

I propose that this is also directly proportional to the distance we find ourselves from the activities that once made a man "a man". Not only do less of each successive generation acquire the skills that one would define "a man" but there may also be a backlash of resentment to those who do (or did).

As metrosexuality increases, it's not inconceivable that the inadequacies of those lacking similar traditional skills (women/feminists included) drive a desire to denigrate individuals that do possess them.

If that is true the same could be said for the desire to suppress the promotion of items/behaviors that represent those skills- hence the "modern" portrayal and the elimination of those environmental influences that threaten their inferiority complex. (this includes what many would consider traditional woman roles btw)

Sadly, this suppression often becomes commonplace and the idea of its origin becomes irrelevant as illustrated perfectly by many here arguing that the suppression is a positive one.

But that's just me.

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I'm reasonably convinced that my 22 year old son could kick the OP's keister without breaking a sweat (as could probably my 17 year old). The entire OP's premise is flawed.

 

5ft. 6 147 lb Liberal Urban douchbags will be the lucky ones (First to Die) when it all comes down

 

Probably, my generation seems pretty feminine; when we aren't playing CoD lol. It isn't a bad thing though, culture goes through constant change, and it wouldn't be the first time America was run my feminine dudes. After all the big shots wore powdered wigs and stockings back in the 18th century .

 

My 24 Year old Daughter could too ...

 

OMgosh. My son would go nuts over this gun.

I will say...have you seen the nerf guns lately? They are amazingly like this....taking them apart to make hand guns, rearranging for rifles....

The neat thing about free capitalist marketing...it always finds a way to accomodate the real needs of boys.

 

I didn't write this, but I'll pass it on. Dang I'm glad I grew up in those days, not these.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE KIDS WHO WERE BORN IN THE 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because......


WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!


We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays,

made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them !

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The very idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned

HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!


And if YOU are one of them!

CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.

and while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were.

Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it?

 

You can't be serious.

How the devil do you figure that?

 

you don't get it?

i'll explain it to you: the word "sissy" has a pejorative connotation, i'm guessing you're aware of that.

now combine "feminine traits/effeminate" with "sissy"....get it?

 

Well said!

And have you noticed that we often see on TV, a man in the presence of a female, where something terrible has happened. The man is crying like a baby girl while the wife, girlfriend, or sister is under control emotionally.

---pete---

 

The males are abdicating their position as the protector, bread-winner, head of the home and father, leaving those roles to the women. The women are forced to pick up the mantel and they do it because it has to be done.

So many men today are what we used to call P.W.ed or hen-pecked. the difference is, they did it to themselves and they like it that way.

Men used to:
open doors for any woman
pick up the tab for a date
respect women enough to not expect sex on the first (or tenth) date
not use profanity around any woman, especially an older woman
go inside and meet the parents before the date (not just honk the horn or have her pick him up)
helped her with her coat etc.

Chivalry is dead partly because of the women that ridicule men that are chivalrous still.

And, what's up with all the Amazon women movies and TV today? GI Jane types and almost every "secrete squirrel" shoot 'em up movie has to have a woman that not just tags along but is fighting and doing acrobatic stunts with the hero. (We even call women heroes now.)

The roles are reversing and the lines are being erased. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

 

I've had this conversation before and it always gets me into trouble.
So once more...here we go...

This "effemination" of males is a direct product of all the issues you guys have already exposed. I haven't read this whole post, so I may be restating things now but...

I have properties both in Canada (Toronto) and the Czech Republic (Prague).
I am a Canadian who was lucky enough to marry a Czech women, and then work for my country's foreign affairs section in Prague. I found while living over there, that oddly enough this "effemination" process is not so pronounced in much of Europe. So much so that to me it felt like a very chauvinistic society. I soon came to realize that most of the women actually wanted men to be strong and traditional. Chivalry is certainly not dead over there.

In NA though, we've had the PC crowd climb right up our sphincters about just about everything. This crowd...IMO...are direct products of the bra-burners...the peace-niks...They are products of a society that managed to change the way minorities are treated and looked upon. All worthy and noble causes.

BUT...they never stopped pushing. I think the protesting became second nature. So on it went...

Negro became black which became coloured which became African-Americans
Spanking is now debated as to its actual effectiveness, and hell don't even dare spank your child in the supermarket...
My daughter was born in Czech and I taught her to be comfy in water by bathing with her. DO NOT do that here...
I have twin 10 yr old boys who I coach in competitive hockey. They are not allowed to check...and the league told me last season to stop telling the kids to "Get Ugly" when they go out on the ice.

The list goes on...but u get my point...

In NA, boys are being taught to be wimps. SISSIES!!! (ya I said it...)
HOWEVER...I am not raising sissies...and when this crop of kids grows up and faces the real world...my little beasts are gonna eat most of the sissies for breakfast.

 

My Dad Could Beat Up Ur Dad

 

Let's see. Single mother. No father in the home. Mom's wears a t-shirt saying, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" while she desperately looks for a husband. All of the kids teachers are women. No male role model consistently in his life.

How in the hell will he learn to be a man?

 

what does he need to learn to be a man?

 

Sounds to me like more men need to become teachers.
(and bus drivers and crossing guards, as per the OP)

 

Do you require a dog to help you safely cross the intersection?

How about...A MAN TO SHOW HIM!

Gawd...are you a Palin supporter?

 

then who will kill spiders for you?

 

Thanks for that one...now I gotta go clean coffee off my kbd...

 

thank you but i asked patrickT a question.

 

LOL...no worries...I'll just be over here getting the dog ready to go...

 

I didn't see it that way. A sissie is a male who doesn't fulfill his biological and societal role. A nation of sissies fits the thread. If he said "a nation of 'female dogs'," then that would be different.

If two people decide to marry, they need to act as one. One will have to suck it up so that they both go one way or another. If they compromise, they get (*)(*)(*)(*).

I am a part of this younger generation. A lot of young adults an men have this strange fear of death. They are more like mercenaries than citizens looking up to fulfill a duty to their country. They would rather get beat on than fight back. They are insecure, and unsure of themselves. They are not fulfilling their roles, and part of it is that they are becoming effeminate.

We know why they are insecure, not sure of themselves, and fearful. We don't know why they are turning into women.

 

You've never used the hairspray trick?

 

click on my profile and tell me what ~I~ would be doing with hair spray.

and what would hair spray do to this monster besides annoy it?:

 

Thank you for the wonderful example.

"Originally Posted by Warspite
Good, hopefully the effeminate younger generation will replace the testosterone laden patriarchs once the latter retire or die off."

And yet another wonderful example.

I can't teach you how to be a man on this forum but the fact that you don't know there is a difference between a man and a woman or worse you sense there's a difference and don't value the difference pretty much says it all.

A quick example. Men take risks. That's why 98% of the workplace deaths are men. They take the dangerous jobs. Unfortunately, the new men want the position but they don't want to do the work. The higher pay for risky jobs and the cachet is fine but, what, you actually want me to do it? Care to guess why so many police shootings involve three, four, or more officers shooting the suspect lots.

Maybe it's that (*)(*)(*)(*)ed testosterone, Warspite. Of course, estrogen has it's downside, too. The foo-foo boutique, not clothing, stores in Old Town were referred to by the merchants as estrogen stores because t6heir clientele was gender exclusive. Men buy things. Women shop.