Why Brexit should scare anti-Trump Americans

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I never call anyone any of those name, unless they show they are.
    I want no groups to get special rights. You are really striking out in you asinine projections. You should just call it a life and stop her.
    One is only a racist if they think they're race is superior to another.
    One is a homophobe if they are frightened of gay marriages and try to stop it.
    Most of those that are like that are brainwashed zombie robots.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    So whine and cry. It's all you have.
    Try being a man.
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    And they are not all that different. 2 sides of the same coin.
    And it doesn't help the people of the country 1 bit.
     
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    They matter enough for you to butt in and comment. So yeah, you value my opinions.
     
  5. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. The R and the D are pretty much interchangeable between them. I am amazed at the amount of people who only look at the R and the D and ignore the candidates or the quality of each. It is like they never have heard of voting for the best candidate available. But that is our two party system in a nut shell.
     
  6. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well you busted yourself. You label anyone who opposes gay marriage as scared and homophobic. You obviously think that if someone disagrees on your political view on a gay issue they are homophobic. You really outed yourself here. :roflol:
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, we have a two party system. That's is reality and if you live in reality you know one of those candidates will be our next president. If on the other hand you live in pretend world you vote for someone in a third party who doesn't stand a chance. Reality isn't always the easy choice but it is always the correct one
     
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    That is the view of the Republican establishment, who feel their power is being threatened. Was actually referring to the Oligarch establishment who appear to be staying out of the fray.
     
  9. dairyair

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    I will do what everyone else on this forum seems to do with you. Let you rant and whine. You certainly have nothing worth while to say.
    I only outed myself if you are frightened of gay marriage. And by your response, you are.
    There is no reason to oppose it. Not 1 single reason.
     
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    I personally just don't care on the gay marriage issue one way or the other,its just not something I spend time thinking about but if you are going to label someone as a homophobe because they disagree on a political issue about gays you prove that my point was valid. Anyone with differing ideas than you on race or gender is a racist a bigot and a homophobe. Many people have no problem with gays being gay but they do oppose them marrying and that does not make them homophobes as you claim. Just keep digging though,its fun to watch you disappear into this hole.:smile:
     
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    if Britain goes into a huge Recession and companies start fleeing for Europe and taking out all their investments, it will be a huge GIFT to the EU and Hillary.
     
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    I think you're right that the same motivation is present in the Trump campaign as in the Brexit. However, Donald Trump's little brother, Boris Johnson, is much more likeable and persuasive than Trump, and he was able to appeal to a wider audience. Most people don't like Trump at all, and I would be astonished if he could win the election. Of course, I didn't think Brexit would happen, and it did, so maybe no one should listen to my opinion. (My wife stopped listening to it years ago.)

    By the way, if you haven't seen a pic of Boris Johnson, there's a small one below. Click on it to make it a bit larger. Doesn't he look like the kid brother of one of our presidential candidates?

    20145_Boris-Johnson-wins-seat-MP.jpg
     
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    So you think it is okay to vote for the worst candidate that might bring ruination upon this nation because he or she has an R or a D next to their names? That turning over the leadership of this nation to an incompetent or corrupt person is perfectly okay as long as an R and a D is next to their names. Quality means nothing. integrity means nothing, trustfulness means nothing, Visions, problem solving ability, understanding America, judgement, all mean nothing as long as an R or D is beside their names. I could go on, but no need to.

    Vote your R or D and elect failure. Your choice. Before I would vote for someone who fills the above criteria, I would stay home first. But I am not, I am going to vote for the longest shot available, I am going to let the world know that there is still a single American out there that puts country over party, that thinks quality matters, that think we need someone at least competent to be in charge in the oval office.

    But if you're one who only believes in the R and the D, that nothing else matters, you're in the right place. Our two party system. enjoy the future.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People have said trump couldn't do it from the very start, including me. He just keeps doing it though. Time will tell
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a rule I'm pretty much on the same page as you in this and another forum, until they kicked me out that is, LOL. Just have to agree to disagree on this subject I guess but you can't say I haven't tried
     
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    It has been interesting. I had my favorites when this election began. Jim Webb was my number one choice, although I knew he had no chance. No other Democrat did since before the 2012 election when the Democrats decided on Hillary. Heck she had 20 super delegates supporting here before the year turned to 2013, but that is another story.

    On the Republican side, I was always partial to governors as they have experience dealing with legislatures. Governor Perry was my first choice there, then Carson and finally Kasich. But I also knew after Christie destroyed Rubio in New Hampshire, the Republican nomination was decided.

    I've never been a political party man. I voted for Johnson in 2012 having lost faith in one candidate and I didn't trust the other. I've been more open to third party candidates since supporting Perot in 1992 and 1996. So being a governor is a plus with me, but I am open to outsiders, Perot, Carson, in 2012 Cain.

    I first became interested in politics watching the 1956 Republican and Democratic conventions on TV. Quite a difference between the way the political game is played back then compared to today.

    Yes, you tired and gave it your best. But I am one old crusty fart. Pretty much set in his ways by now. Being old, I do tend to run on and on and every so often been known to rant and rave. But yes, this has been interesting and decent and enjoyable. Take care my friend, politics doesn't always have to be nasty. You proved that.
     
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    when the left moved its focus away from the basics (healthcare, welfare, and education equity and access), and started involving itself in first world problems of a vastly more trivial nature, it started losing support. it's happening all over the west.
     
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    I think Trump winning the republican vote is a wake up call for republicans.... people really do not care about all the rights social\religious issues... they want jobs

    they want less foreign outsourcing and less foreign imports... they want those that outsource jobs to pay more for doing so...

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    what is "patrirachy"?
     
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    from a google search.....

    "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it."
     
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    Hillary Clinton has already destroyed the Democratic Party. It doesn't exist anymore. Instead, it is the Corporate Fascist Party for which Wall Street, banks, international corporations and the elitist media owned by the super rich are the new gods that all Democrat minions are to worship and beg to on their knees for their survival.
     
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    yes, Hillary used to be a republican, but she converted to the dem party after she met Bill

    republicans and democrats have swapped party names before, could happen again I suppose, but not at this time imo

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    At least you are the good Democrat submissive following the script of not even pretending there is one reason to actually vote FOR Hillary Clinton. Just accept all the fear mongering and lies about Trump and think about only what you are allowed to think like the good little minion does. Just vote to change the Democratic Party to the war mongering corporate fascist party.
     
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    It's a wake-up call for both parties and Bernie was the Democrats Trump in that he represented dissatisfaction with the DNC just as Trump does with the GOP. People are fed up with this inside the beltway club running and ruining our country
     
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    what they are fed up with is the partisanship, they want people to end excessive foreign outsourcing and excessive foreign imports and bring jobs back to America
     

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