Why Brexit should scare anti-Trump Americans

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  1. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I worry for Germany. How can Germany save itself now? They are a minority in their own country that has been inundated with "others". The other countries are scrambling to follow Britain's lead before they become the next Germany. It is predicted that the EU is now worried about how to hang on to their wealth now that there is a move for independence... they are running scared and it will be illuminating to see how violently they begin to retaliate.

    Trump will win in a landslide.
     
  2. erayp

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    A major engine for the left’s quest for power goes under the name of “political correctness”, an insidious attack on common sense and conscience through language manipulation. Political Correctness' is Totalitarian Mind Control.

    The left and progressives are afraid that other countries will follow so they'll use insidious attack... intended to entrap using

    1. Political Correctness and,
    2. fear mongering.

    Political Correctness: A friend who was born, raised and still lives in Germany. He says if you say anything about the influx of Muslim immigrants the liberals call you a Nazi. It's a different word but the same tactic liberals use here in the U.S., then again, they are comparing Trump to Hitler... see the tactic?... weaponizing words to silence dissent and keep people ignorant.

    Fear Mongering: Many countries are already calling for their own referendum. There will certainly be bumps in the road to freedom for the Brits just like there was for us when we became independent but be ready for liberals screaming like a bunch of wet cats with every bump to scare monger other countries into staying.
     
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    Change? From a D to an R, still business as usual. If one looks at Trump's stands on a conglomerate of issues prior to his announcement to run for the presidency as a Republican, Hillary might be to the right of Trump. At least with Hillary, she has been fairly consistent, there are exceptions, but there always are. With Trump, which one will emerge if he does win, the pre-seeking the Republican nomination Trump or the Trump his supporters have come to adore?

    I have a feeling that Democrats will be pretty well pleased with Trump's domestic policies. But they will voice huge displeasure only because of the R next to Trump's name if he does win. The only way to get rid of business as usual governance is to dump both major parties on the trash heap of history. But since Republicans and Democrats write our election laws as a mutual protection act, they have ensured nothing changes.

    Oh the rhetoric and slogans are big, one might even buy into them. Actually the vast majority of Americans do. But the act of business as usual governance remains, rhetoric and slogans are quickly forgotten once the election is over.
     
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    I think it's pretty incredible that they've picked the one candidate who might actually lose to Clinton. She's a very weak candidate herself.

    I think the main lesson of Brexit was that it doesn't matter what the media, both political parties, 3/4 MPs, the entire big business community, banks, 9/10 economists, most academics, and central banks say. Don't forget it wasn't so long ago the idea of a British exit from the EU was at levels of support 2pct points lower than Trump's 39.4%: only May 16. November is a long way away, and anything can happen.
     
  5. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All that is true. But when a nation decides to ignore the fear mongering and nasty name-calling and extricate themselves from the problem, how can they do it if they are a minority in their own country? Britain was very civilized. They had a vote and the majority won. But Angela Merkle has opened the floodgates - I fear riots.
     
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    Trump is a racist and a liar, and is going down.
     
  7. buckwalder

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    Trump has given voice to millions worldwide. Good people world wide see this and embrace it.
    Good people of all races world wide are tired of the regressive left and their silly overuse of words like "racist, bigot, ect..
    The left's house of cards is tumbling down around them. They no it, we know, the dog even knows it.
    Seriously, when you try so hard to convince such a huge majority that they are ignorant for not thinking like a lefty without a backlash ...well, you as a lefty's set yourselves up for failure.
    So, even if Trump loses, he has set the ball rolling and there is no stopping it now.
    People have been silenced by PC for decades and Trump pulled out the gag.
     
  8. dairyair

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    I wouldn't call myself anti Trump. But I am very anti establishment. But I will find it extremely difficult putting Trumps name down.
    This one just may be a sit out.
    A moron vs anti establishment. I don't see a win win with either. Actually, it's a lose lose.
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    Trump has nailed it with the bad trade deals. The NAFTA deal, the TPP and all the other "free trade" deals where foreign countries get to steal our companies while exporting cheap goods and laborers to undermine our economy are pretty much the same deal as the EU and their bureaucratic tyranny that takes the sovereignty away from the people as well as their votes and their voice. Democrats celebrate multi-culturalism as they destroy American culture just like the globalists have been destroying European cultures under the same umbrella of multi-culturalism.

    The anti-elitist, anti-establishment and anti-globalism that Hillary Clinton represents is her Achilles heel along with all the other scandals. She will be beaten badly because Americans are tired of getting screwed by the corporatism and the media.

     
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    NOPE. The dude is not public official material. No way shape or form. I guess that in a way is anti trump.

    If one thinks the last 16 yrs was divisive, triple that divisiveness if trump is prez.
     
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    That's all that's left in your quiver, just flamebait.
     
  12. dairyair

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    Very well said.
    I always say actions speak louder than words.
    We haven't had world wars in 70 ys, after 2 nearly 20 yrs apart.
    No major depressions, sure we just had a big big recession world wide and are still crawling out. But nothing near the 1930s.

    Some nice points you have shown.
     
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    Lefties will be right there to increase divisiveness, and certainly violence-its what the left does.
     
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    Sounds like you are voting for Hillary?
     
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    Why the young leftist voted to stay in the EU....

    A couple of days ago I found myself pleading with my demographic of younger voters to choose remain. “I’m so angry,” wrote one Twitter user. “A generation given everything: free education, golden pensions, social mobility, have voted to strip my generation’s future.”

    The young generation expecting a lifetime of handouts. Is anyone surprised?

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...cket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits
     
  16. sawyer

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    So you will sit on your hands because neither candidate meets your standards. In the real world you often have times when there is no good choice but you have to do something even if it's going to hurt. Let's say your in a car and the brakes go out. Your headed for a thousand foot cliff. You have two choices, both of them bad. You can jump out of the speeding car or turn into a tree. Either way you get seriously injured but if you just sit there and do nothing because you don't like your choices you go off the cliff and die. Hillary is the cliff, do something!
     
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    I don't think anyone will care about Brexit when they vote in our election. Polls are still coming out and Trump is looking more miserable than ever. He's simply the wrong candidate to choose for any kind of movement. The uneducated conservatives bought in to it, but he is struggling with the rest of the country who sees him for what he is. Just the wrong candidate at the wrong time.
     
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    You have fallen Into the leftist trap and their buzzword " divisive". What the word means to them is that anyone who doesn't accept the leftist agenda is divisive so in reality any candidate on the right is divisive the way they see it
     
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    It's not about caring what Europe did, it's about the mood of the western world and how we are fed up with creeping socialism, centralized authority and unregulated immigration.
     
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    I mean you can believe that as much as you want. You'll be surely disappointed come election time.
     
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    It would have been easier to just answer those two questions with no, and no.
     
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    Nah, I'm voting for Johnson, true change. Against business as usual candidates and parties. I'm not alone, a lot of us are fed up with what the two major parties offered. Disgusted is probably the better word. Having to choose between Trump and Clinton is like having to choose between the devil and satan. Between arsenic and cyanide as your poison of choice. Both are evil and deadly.
     
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    Your choice to vote for someone who can't win as a form of protest but it leaves you out of the loop so don't complain about either Trump or Hillary when they are president. You took your ball and went home
     
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    He paints a rosy picture but leaves out things like unanswered genocide, a nuclear NK and the rise of Islamic terrorists world wide.
     
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    You have to have blinders on not to see it. People not on the extreme left are fed up with this creeping socialism, this no borders mindset and centralized authority. It is palpable.
     

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