Why do gays care what their sexuality is?

Why do gays/lesbians believe that just "being born gay" is something to take pride in or base one's personal identity on?

You don't hear about "Straight pride rallies", or "Straight Pride Month", or the "Heterosexual rights movement" - why do gays think that just "being gay" makes them special or that most people (other than them) could care less if they're gay or not? I call this homo-narcissim.

 

Long story short, it's because they want to be who they are, without fear of the public insulting them because of it.

 

Isn't making a big deal out of it with "gay pride" rallies, a "gay pride flag" etc just going to do more to draw attention to it and cause them to be insulted for it.

Straight people don't walk around telling everyone "Hey look at me! I'm straight and I'm proud!"

 

They're trying to change how a population views homosexuality. By saying it's okay to be gay, it's changing the views.

 

I have never been to a gay pride rally, so I can't comment on those. The reason that you don't see heterosexual rights movements is because heterosexuals are not being denied basic rights because of their sexuality.

Honestly I only discuss my sexuality IF someone asks, or when defending our rights. I don't try to hide it, I talk about my life just like anyone else does. If I'm asked what I did this weekend, I will tell you that my partner and I did some yard work, went to the farmers market, and painted the hall.

 

Most of us don't either, yet we are accused of "shoving it down your throats" if we are in public holding hands, or have a picture of our partner on our desk, or discuss holiday plans and even mention our partner.

 

Tax benefits are not a "basic right".

You make your sexuality more of an issue than anyone else does.

 

Because people like to shove their "differences" in your face while simultaneously requesting to be treated the same.

If you put yourself out there, you are going to get insulted by people. That works for everyone.

Yes.

Actually, it's not. The people that don't care will always not care, and the people that are opposed to it will always be opposed to it. By celebrating your sexuality, you are actually doing more harm to the people that are otherwise apathetic than changing anyone's mind.

LMAO. Please. What basic rights are being denied?

 

They don't care, what they care about is others that want to deny them rights based on their sex, it's called sex discrimination

if a man can marry a women, a women should be able to do the same


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Marriage IS a basic right. There are over 1000 government granted privileges associated with marriage, and most have nothing to do with taxes.

How do I make my sexuality an issue? By holding hands? By not hiding? By demanding that I be treated equally as an American citizen?

 

A legally recognized marriage, with the over 1000 government granted privileges that come with it.

 

There are states that grant the same benefits to gay couples as straight couples. Not every state has a populace willing to extend the definition of marriage to include same-sex partnerships. That's just the way it is. You're not going to win that battle by pissing and moaning about it.

 

Why do Straight men and women believe that just being born straight is something to take pride in , or base ones personal identity on ?
Need I go on ? See what a mess you are in ?
You actually get even deeper into the mire with the remainder of your Post .
You miss the blindingly obvious -- that you don't need to celebrate something that society has come to assume is the normal and , worse , where some people not conforming to the "normal" are judged to be mutants and perverts .And with the most perverted of all groups , not even God's favoured children .
I am confident that you are far more homophobic than you imagine .

 

So you want to get married for the benefits? Why do you care if it is called marriage or something else?

 

And does that make you feel good? When you're picked on for something?

You know, you're right. That's why we don't have this thing called the civil rights act, because after all, being racist is okay in todays day and age.

 

"Something Else" sounds such a stupid name

 

I don't care one way or the other. Being picked on in my field means people care, so it can be associated with a positive.

It's a bit of a stretch to compare the plight of the gays with the civil rights movement. Almost insulting.

 

Is this a bad joke or did you really not get what I meant?

 

What field is this?

How?

 

Only states with legal same sex marriage extend those rights. The federal government does not recognize same sex marriage at all at this time.
There is no state that has civil unions for same sex couples that have the same rights as marriage. Some come close, but none are the same.

 

We don't. Why are you making ridiculous generalizations about us?

"Gay Pride" is somewhat of a misnomer; it's about not owning the shaming that some members of society have tried to heap on us for decades. If there's an element of pride involved, it's the pride in surviving in a society hostile to our very existence, and celebrating our achievements despite the popular claim of anti-gay opponents that we contribute nothing of value to society.

All that said, it's rather funny that I'm wasting my time explaining what "Gay Pride" is to someone who claims that most people don't care, and even more so since I haven't attended a Pride event in a decade or more, and find them largely to have become pointless parties where merchants try to get people buy things.

Because straight people are the majority, and therefore are not targeted for discrimination or abuse based on their orientation. I am not surprised that some straight people are so blinded by their privilege that they're incapable of getting this.

We don't all think that. I certainly don't. Are you capable of viewing us as individuals with diverse opinions? Or would that inconvenience your mission to drum up hatred of us?

Obviously you care, or your wouldn't have started this thread. I call this kind of behavior a negative obsession with homosexuality, or "moral masturbation" when it's people using religious beliefs as an excuse to attack us.

What's your excuse?

 

Military.

Gays are not denied the opportunity to vote, so they can be active in votes pertaining to the issues they feel are working against them. Gays can own property. There are no separate restrooms for gays. Gays can work in any field they please. Normal people do not feel gays are inferior, nor do they treat them as such. Need I go on?

To be fair, the federal government should not recognize any marriage. Would you like that? I would.

 

I want to have my marriage recognized for the protections that it will afford my partner and I. The protection of not having to pay inheritance taxes on the property we have both worked to provide. The protection of having her make my emergency medical decisions without having to jump through hoops, and carry a POA, that may, or may not be accepted by the attending physician. The protection of not being kicked out of the hospital by family.

There are many protections that heterosexual couples take for granted that we have to spend thousands of dollars on.

 

Why do you keep referring to yourself and other gays as "we"? Why do you lump yourselves into one big collective?

 

I am trying to gauge how you stand on this issue since I don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) about you. Do you care if it is called marriage or by another name? Does civil union sit well with you? It is important to the issue. Also, I agree that it's bull(*)(*)(*)(*) your partner cannot make medical decisions so long as you have them written out in a will. It is also a bucket of (*)(*)(*)(*) that you or her (assuming you're female based on the name) could be kicked out of the hospital. The kinds of things you mentioned can be worked out on the federal level by avoiding the label of "marriage," which is something gays may have to sacrifice. The name of it is meaningless, and you should not be wrapped up in it. I stand by the fact the government should not pay a single cent out to anyone for their marriage, moreso in terms of military benefits than overall. I call that fair.