Why do you believe in God ?

Funny how I simply do not recall telling you of any book. Are there books you believe in?

By the way, maybe you don't believe in Giants and my suspicion is you never looked up the record for heights by humans. Check it out. I call a person over 8 feet tall a Giant. What do you call them?

The tallest man in medical history for whom there is irrefutable evidence is Robert Pershing Wadlow (USA) (born 6:30 a.m. at Alton, Illinois, USA on 22 February 191, who when last measured on 27 June 1940, was found to be 2.72 m (8 ft 11.1 in) tall.

 

How do you explain the creation of all matter?

 

Science is a process.
Science is the process of testing ideas.
Science provides the closest thing we have to proof positive - experimental repeatability.
It is the scientific process that leaves me to believe that matter is contingent in its being.
If contingent being exists, necessary being must exist.
Material contingency is empirical evidence of necessary being.
I do not believe in a necessary being because I found one in the bible.
I am left to believe in the God of the bible because I can find in Him a necessary being.
If you can offer a better candidate for a necessary being, I am eager to read about it.

As contingent beings, it's not so much that any idea is really ever proved to us as it is that all of the other ideas that we have considered have been, to our satisfaction, disproved. What remains is what we're left to believe. Then, that's tested, and so on, and so on. As contingent beings, we approach certainty through the exclusion process wherein doubt is removed by testing.

 

So kinda like global warming then.

 

My posting friend, do you not think I have a background, yes in college no less, of science?

Will you not lecture to the choir?
Factually you never saw me explain things of science using the Bible as my reference.

What we are discussing, at least I have been, is the condition known as a pure vacuum. It has no stars, no planets, no black anything, if there are black holes, perhaps those are the vacuum I speak of only as remnants of the prior to the big bang.

Now imagine nothing but a black hole. No light. No laws of physics to worry about.

I want to try to explain why the black hole of this discussion rock and rolled to produce what we call the universe.

Can you explain in your own words and stop assuming I do not understand science as we are now discussing?

 

That is a good one. I get into problems with the believers when I announce to them what they say is man is in charge of climate. Their eyes boil away as they get hostile and try to say they can explain how man affects climate but then say he can't control it. They are in essence saying they can control climate and their politicians will do it for them.

 

Imagine how He feels, knowing that you are not one of His Christians, yet know this to be true.

 

To the anti GOD group.

Explain if you are able to, the legions of humans that were devoted Atheists who died, later came back to life and declare they did go to a place and did see Jesus or perhaps it was GOD. They no longer are atheists. Wonder why they quit being Atheists?

 

The answer is in your question. If matter is a "creation", there must be a creator.
A creation is contingent in its being, in that its being is contingent upon something else. The idea that matter is a creation is called material contingency. The idea that matter has always actually existed is called material necessity.

I cannot logically and honestly affirm that matter is necessary in its being. That which is necessary in its being, is what it is necessarily. It has no potential to change. It has no potential to come to know, come to emote, come to will, come to be or not be. It is what it is, and it has no potential to be anything else. On the other hand, no particle of matter can occupy the same position, relative to the balance of matter, in any two increments of time. In others words, all matter is subject to constant and exhaustive change. Indeed, matter is defined by its changes, especially on quantum scale.

Material contingency is empirical evidence of necessary being.

 

Given the construction of your above post, you should ask for your money back.
Space and time only actually exist relative to matter. Apart from matter, there is no space/time.
Space is position relative to matter.
Time is the progressive sequential relative positions of matter.

 

This idea leaves me curious as to how this would work?

Did “god” design everything at the instant of theBig Bang.... and that design eventually resulted in life... apparently through evolution?

Or is there ongoing godly design intervention as life has gone from no earth... to earth... to bacteria.... to fish... to mammals... to primitive primate forbearers... to mankind ... with god refining his design at every stage?


Why did god create various now extinct humanoid specie? (Neanderthals, densiovan, and more?

I suspect the answer is some version of “we cannot understand the ways of god”

But then, isn’t god simply an expedient convenience. Isnt “god” simply a way of alleviating our discomfort from facing the reality that there are lots of things that we don’t understand. When we do not understand, we simply lay it on god... then we happily go on our way because now “we understand”

Seems to me that you are proposing a false dichotomy
Let’s start with the acknowledged reality that there is much we do not know
And we do not know how things got from what we do not know, to what we do now know
So, I think you are saying that the only two options to get to today s known reality is EITHER randomness, or god. How about just leaving it at: there is a lot we don’t know

Otoh... there is a lot that we know today that we did not know in the past
And the fact that we do not understand something today does not exclude the possibility that we will understand better in the future. As a matter of fact, it is virtually certain that people of the future WILL UNDERSTAND things that baffle us today.

the fact that we do not understand something like the origin of life does not mean that we will never understand this question.... and therefore our current lack of understanding does not indicate the existence of a god. After all, ancient humans did not UNDERSTAND volcanos, and they thought volcanos or floods must come from god.

The fact that we do not currently understand something provides do evidence about the existence of god

 

Life is complicated. Neither God nor science explain it very well. The more I learn, the more I realize that I don't know.

 

I have always believed. Sometimes I am close, sometimes I am not. Sometimes it's like this:

 

Was he a virgin?

 

Watch the video "The Scale of the Universe 2" =

Once celestial hydrogen forms visible creation begins.

 

Good question. But if so, he was a huge virgin. Imagine you walking someplace and he heads your way? Do you look up? Some years back, some super tall guy was asked as a joke, "say, is it raining up there? He looks around, spits on the guy asking and says, yes, it sure is raining up here."

 

To start, I simutainulously believe and disbelieve in God. This may sound contradictory but this is my balance, hear me out.

I reject the concept of literary defined faith, though I have never been capable of dismissing the concept of faith outright. We all need a bit a faith in our lives to reach our potential.

Socrates said death is the philosopher’s dream, I’m sympathetic to this concept. Maybe in death we find truth.

In the end I believe in God because I believe existence is more than material.

 

So why don't you feed them? How sad you are.

 

There is evidence of God and plenty of it. There is no proof, which is what you're demanding.

 

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Reasoning is only one part of faith. Faith involves the entire person: intellect, emotion and volition (will). Understanding is the intellectual part of faith. Understanding is knowing what to do with what you know. Trust is the emotional part of faith, and identity is the volitional part of faith. To the extent that one understands a thing, has trust in that thing and identifies with that thing, that one has faith in that thing.

For example, the God of the bible offers salvation from the penalty for sin by grace (unmerited favor) through faith in Jesus Christ. That is to say that the faith in Jesus Christ that saves one is itself an unmerited favor, a gift, from God. Furthermore, it requires a vanishingly insignificant degree of faith. Jesus likened it in scale to a "mustard seed".

Doctrine is comprised of ideas that are held in common and are no longer subject to testing.
I don't have any ideas that I am unwilling to test; therefore, I do not espouse a doctrine or, as you put it, a "literary defined faith".

 

Such as?

 

It seems that those women would have been unable to accommodate him because of his size.

 

You think that Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies, actually exists?

 

Of course there is proof ...god lets thousands die in agony in earthquakes and one survives and thanks for (sarcasm alert)

 

Remind me tomorrow to feed all those thousands dying in Africa because there is no rain, to take the first jet to feed them.
That’s like my telling you if you are against abortion to adopt Ten kids