Why doesn't DeSantis just announce he will NOT be a candidate?

I'm curious where it has ever been a strength. The GOP leaned HARD in the the trans issue in the last election, spending more on it than almost any other issue, while the dems didn't really touch it in their ads. Why do you think it failed last time but will work this time? I don't think the pubic is as transphobic as you wish they were.

 

What anti-abortionists don’t acknowledge is that overplaying your hand will result in the direct opposite of your goals. When politicians, like DeSantis, take things to the near maximum, more candidates who wish to limit abortions are voted out. They appoint radicals to the Supreme Court, and before you know it, Rowe is made the law of the land, and abortion becomes more common than ever.

 

The GOP leaned hard on the trans issue last election? Maybe you could provide more detail on that.

 

Honestly I don't think that's a concern. For many anti-abortion voters, that's their only issue; they don't care about anything else, and are not going to compromise with evil in their understanding.

This stuck with me, but years ago I was reading the comments to some abortion related article (back when online articles still had comments sections) and someone posted that he would vote for a communist if made abortion illegal. I wonder how many there are out there like that.

 

I think there are enough voters who are obsessed with the abortion issue to keep many moderate Republicans out of office and elect pro abortion Democrats. It is loser issue for Republicans who look for compromises.

 

Being the loser in a primary often sets a person up to be the party's candidate in the next cycle, so DeSantis could benefit by being the loser.

Examples: Hillary Clinton, Bob Dole, Mitt Romney.

 

Hmmm all people who never became President.

 

I'd thought he'd already gotten the legislature to change that law.

 

Makes sense to me. Trump has increased his lead over DeSantis from 15 points on 1 Apr to 28 points today according to RCP averages. I do think a lot of that 13-point increase is short term, like a sympathy vote for Trump because a lot of Republicans think the Democrats, read DA Bragg has done Trump wrong. Many Republicans view Bragg’s indictment as a political vendetta against Trump who hasn’t done anything wrong.


Even so, MAGA republicans first choice is always going to be Trump. DeSantis is an afterthought. Although if I were DeSantis, I’d play it coy for the next couple to three months. I’d wait to see if other shoes drop besides Manhattan. Georgia is a real possibility, the DOJ special counsels on the classified documents and 1-6 investigations. Trump’s rape trial and probably some I forgot.


I think DeSantis has until August to either get in or out. That’s when the first Republican debate is scheduled. I do agree, as long as the Republicans are more interested in making their statement of supporting Trump and nominating him instead of winning a general election. No need to be tainted by what would probably be a big losing year in 2024 with Trump as the GOP nominee.

 

None of those people ever became President. Their brand was still tainted with those same negative press stories expressing the reasons that they lost 4 years earlier , which come to define a problem for independents, even when they finally win the nomination. Clinton was portrayed as a bit of a cold fish, unapproachable and with old ideas, according to polls back , while Obama was seen as likable, having a self effacing sense of humor, and having new ideas. Those notions stick around outside the party and its hard to shake them.

They have the name familiarity, a campaign infrastructure in with connections to all 50 states, and a preexisting donor list, and that gets them a long way in the primary, but it gets them nowhere after the primary.

 

As bad as Biden is, you would thinking that the Republicans would be looking for a strong candidate that could take him down. But no. We end up arguing over Trump, who will be 78 years old and has more baggage than a freight car. TRUMP CANNOT WIN. Can the anti socialist people get that through their heads? It does not matter if he were running against Maxine Waters or AOC. His brand is so tainted with the general electorate that he is political poison.

 

I don't agree - if the economy and country are having a lot of issues next Nov as I expect- there is going to be a much stronger Anti-Biden vote than some people realize

A better GOP candidate would be much more likely to win, but Trump can win

 

Yes, Trump won in 2016 against all expectations, but can lighting strike twice? Remember the brainwashed younger generation, vote harvesting and phony absentee balloting. The Democrats could reincarnate Hitler and Stalin, run them on a “fusion ticket,” and win in California, Illinois, New York, the rest of the west coast and all of New England, except for maybe New Hampshire. That’s how dumb and calcified the voters are in those states. When you add to that a visceral hate candidate, like Trump, it’s hopeless.

 

I think we ran that experiment in 2022.

Not that successful.

 

They ARE leaning hard on it, especially in Florida. They have passed 11 "woke" laws to drive gays and trans back in the closet, and now they passed the abortion bill which shows they are 100% focused on authoritarian social policies and nothing else. Younger voters says that kind of authoritarianism turned them off during the mid-terms, but it seems the GOP is doubling down on it.

Well, I shouldn't say 100% because they added a new tax on home insurance holders, which is pretty much the opposite of what we needed.

So, that is not going to work in 2024, and Trump (for once) is being smart to NOT campaign on driving the gay back in the closet, or other authoritarian policies on social issues.

Sure, but in many States that issues is off the table, so those voters will focus on other issues, while younger people and independents might vote against the banners.

 

Yes about how are those anti grooming laws hurting the GOP? I'd say they aren't.

 

As I said, younger voters said they are turned off by authoritarian social policies, which is why the "red wave" never materialized in 2022. That's how it can hurt the GOP. I think many independents will feel the same say, especially about abortion banners.

 

So you think the red wave never materialized because Republicans don't want children to be physically mutilated and physiologically damaged?

I've not seen any evidence of that but if you have some polling that says the general public is behind child mutilation with the Democrats you might have a point.

 

No need to re-word my post (its dishonest). Anyone can read my post if they wonder what I said.

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The blind can't see, and the lame can't comprehend. I can't change that. Ask a friend & have a nice day.

 

Having an 80 year old President who wants to run again at 82 sure makes Democrats frantic. lmao...forget Trump/DeSantis, that's what they're worried about and causes all the rancor. The cupboard is bare kids, America knows it. Going to build coalition around Kamala or Pete? lmao

 

I seriously doubt he is going to run, and no one else stands out as an obvious candidate.

GOP has better candidates than them. In the end there will be 10-15 GOP candidates in the primaries. I am hoping for a moderate GOP president,

 

and the more candidates, the easier it will be for Trump to win

There is virtually no chance that anyone else will be the GOP nominee

 

Than Trump? No, he was rejected once and will be rejected again.

 

When was he rejected from being the nominee?

 

You know he was fired by We The People, and became a 1-term president, which is rare.. He can run, but I doubt he will win the primaries. GOP was hoping DeSantis would become the new star, but he overplayed the authoritarian BS card, and people don't like it. Like I said, GOP has good candidates, even true conservative ones.