This is from another thread: Why doesn't god just show himself? Why go through all this stuff like performing miracles, why not just how himself? Would be a lot easier. Why create this big vast universe, why doesn't god just show himself? Would be a lot easier. Why play all these elaborate games? Do you play these elaborate games with your children? Of course not.
Personally, it would be really hard to rationalize it away when the deity is standing their, floating and whatnot, maybe extending his body parts left and right and reaching for things, in front everybody. If the deity is shown to you and you alone, that wouldn't make sense.
If it was left as simple as "UFO", since a UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object, yes. If they told me specifics about what it was, their plan, their behaviors, their family, where they came from, where they were born, who they killed, and so on, then no, not at face value, but I'd be interested in seeing proof.
If bible-god is as all powerful as he's purported to be, he'd have no problem making himself known to even the most skeptical.
Exactly. Why doesn't he show himself. In the history of mankind? Not one shred of evidence, let alone a sighting. Which very strongly telss us he;she;it does not exist except in the minds of man. That's why he can't show himself. Because you have to imagine he exists to believe in him. People claim the Bible is the Word of God. It isn't. It was written by so many different people at different times, in different sects and then collated by Constantine who converted to Christianity. He is the man who essentially wrote the Bible. He gathered his priests and so on and instrcuted them to weave all those little sects writings together into a continuous story. I repeat. STORY. No word of God involved. The Bible did not exist at all until about 300 AD and if Constantine hadn't organised it Christianity would have died off as it was so splintered and they all disagreed with each other. What Constantine created, in fact, was the Catholic Church as he was a Roman Emperor before and after his conversion. The rest of the religions have diverged from that, all fake. It is man who plays the silly games, not God, he can't as he does not exist. It is man. Just as you'll find in Revelations that the Beast too is a number, a number of a MAN. Read it for yourself. The devil was simply a man who was persecuting the Jews and they called him the devil, using numbered code, 666. He was Nero of course. Just a man.
At the risk of not playing the game and simply driving this home - because there is no god, or at least if there is one he/she/it/they don't care.
I think it would be pretty easy for an omnipotent God to provide us with a true codec of morality that is written in a language that needs no translation and requires no interpretation.
god cannot make an appearance because god is man made. man was reaching an incredible form of intelligent civilization already and that the stupidy of this man made "God" is being self exposed already that is why some genius created this man named Jesus Christ out of the blue to make a political cover for the all time high-grand stupidity of the earliest men. no man no god. simple. no god shall ever appear. polscie
Constantine and Nicea had nothing to do with the Bible old and new. I am uncomfortable saying God does not exist because He has never showed Himself, Jesus aside- I am talking about God. Joseph Smith claimed to see God but then again that's Joseph Smith. I put my faith in God the Father.
only a perfect moron would have believed in Joseph Smith and his claim. only a fool could say that he/she had talked and seen god. for god never existed. polscie
God wants us to have faith in Him. If He were to reveal openly Himself, we would have knowledge, but not necessarily faith. For those who do have faith, He has been revealed. I see God every day, all around me.
i think you mispelled that; how about a perfect mormon? You've seen mother nature, havent you? Your creator. i exist, you exist, mom created us from a single cell (sperm/egg) and from there evolved into what we are now. the perfect liar is one that claims god is some dude on a thrown when our everything is mother nature (he is a she)
Nobody's satisfied with what's always been acceptable before. Now everybody wants to see the long form.
You got it backwards. Back in the old days, at least according to the Bible, God engaged in sacrifice contests, He appeared directly before people, etc. I'd be fine with "what's always been acceptable before." But when we try to ask for the same evidence that was given to people in the Bible, people try to change the rules on us.
I can't have faith in something for which there is no evidence or reason. Otherwise, I might as well have faith in Allah, Gaia, Zeus, faeries, gremlins, and elves. Incorrect, and too generalized. Jesus' own disciples for example. What does it look like? I have a feeling the more specific you get the more wrong you will be when compared to another person who claims they see god.
choice is very important in any context of lying to yourself. As a mountain man, is mother nature just the mosterestest bestest? What has the guy on a thrown with lightning bolts in his hands done for anything except give you a vision of hope? Be fair. What has any belief done for you or mankind that a human being did not teach you? Ie.... Mankind created all words so everything you know of religion was created by people but nature supports your whole existence and you don't have a choice on that belief (fact).
I don't get it, how do you rationalize that against everything else in your life that you require evidence for? I'm also disappointed you chose to leave out the rest, specifically my question to you, "What does it (god) look like? I have a feeling the more specific you get the more wrong you will be when compared to another person who claims they see god."