Why doesnt god just show himself?

I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or if you are trying to argue that this sort of reasoning actually makes sense. If it actually made sense, there would be real-world examples, not just children's fairy tales.

 

the universe is the real god....

the beliefs of an idiot on a thrown will be as dead as zeus

nuclear weapons rain fire from the sky,

i hope you wingnuts are in the cities to taste the flesh melt from bone

mother nature, never left. The idiots just think they are not a part of mother; dey tink dey left da garden (in hell already)

ie.... i hope you are willing to put your life on the line! Sad part is, you are dishonoring your 'mother and father' based on your own selfish actions.

 

Jim Jones says secrets will be revealed if we drink the kool-aid.

 

That is part of the faith. You have to believe god is there. If he showed himself, people would question whether or not he WAS the supreme deity or just a messenger from the real god.

 

You have a different understanding and beleifs than I do. I do not know if yo subscribe to any religion but I am an OTC (Open Theist Christian). So I beleive this;

[Christ speaking] "I came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly" [that it might be full and meaningful] (John 10:10).

"God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him, will not perish but have everlasting life."

John 15:13-15 "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command."

Ra'h

 

Jim Jones ? ...oh you mean;

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Romans 16: v 17-18
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Mark 13: v 21-23
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

God gave us a brain and told us how to determine a false prophet from the real deal.


Ra'h

 

Why do you beleive that?

The prophets predicted nuclear war and weapons used.

I hope you get to meet your maker before you are assigned to your ultimate fate. In the end the meek shall inherit the earth, but in the mean time I am going to kick the mean folks asses to the curb for garbage pickup. Yes I am more of an archangel, and have more in common with the angel of death than a turn the other cheek brother.

Most of the ignorant criticize what they do not know. I do not know one christian that thinks he is not part of nature, we just know we have dominion over nature are are 'special'.

The cowards are the secular murderers, history abounds with those sickos.

Ra'h

 

That mean spiritual and intellectual as well as having a soul. I highly doubt God has any physical form we would recognize, and if he does he probably does not resemble a mammal.

Ra'h

 

Scripture please? The only time that I know God may have (but I doubt it) revealed his 'form' to man was when he gave the commandants to Moses and maybe one other time.

Ra'h

 

Unless your god or his 'son' (apostles, etc) are themselves false and/or deceiving you. What then?

 

Heh... threats noted.

 

because i eat of his body, breath his air, live in his garden and definitely follow the rules of compassion

i know what entanglement is and how a vision can exist of the future. Have you ever experienced deja vu?

In knowing that, 2000 yrs ago the terms nuclear weapons did not exist. So if you had a vision you would not be quoting einsteins equations. You too would probably only remember the 'fire from the sky' 'melting flesh from bone' or perhaps see "the stars falling from the sky" (rockets crossing the sky)

i know my maker. Talk to him ever day (mother nature). it is her/him, that provides every breath, every meal, every beauty of the garden............

i am in heaven

and thankful most every day i wake up!!!!!!

whats your problem? Perhaps unhappy with being alive?

life ever lasting. As i know how to create life by the choice of my hand and live forever in my actions

i agree as the meek appreciate even a crumb of bread and the idiots want more

if you need the truck, then you are the garbage

bring it on.

i agree

you are getting straight answers from that 'first' and discount what you dont comprehend.


it is a common psychosis

see what i mean.

you actually think you are more powerful than your creator.

you must be a christian

ie...... the best examples of anti-christs (against truth) are often seen by observing christians

idiots believe they are so important and i will await the fire from the sky to clean up this taco stand (when the stores are empty, the people will eat the liars)

 

What then? I will have lived a good moral and ethical life by the teachings of Jesus (to the best of my ability) and die, none the wiser. What if my beleifs are correct, what will happen to you? That is the question that begs asking. When you sit face to face with your creator and you two go through every thought and every action will you be comfortable? I happen to think scripture hints that at the point of reviewing the events of our lives which scripture tells us is recorded in the book of life that we just might have a second chance. Maybe there would be hope for the unrepentant sinner if that is indeed the case?

Ra'h

 

No threats meant, I am just telling you what my paradigm is and giving you notice and hopefully some advice for living.

Ra'h

 

Of course nature created you. God created nature, and the universe to run on natural law

You said I have a problem so now I get to determine your problem, hey its only fair! With all due respect, You exhibit clear symptoms of depression and of inferiority complex. Look at your use of lower case ‘I’ to describe yourself. You present many symptoms that prove that out. Of course armchair psychology can be off, however you present certain symptoms for depression and inferiority complex. Its much like the earlier thing you brought up and is caused by an unresolved problem (see; Oedipus complex). Don’t misconstrue what I say. Most of us exhibit some kind of mental aberration. I accidentally psychoanalyze everyone I speak to, it’s a habit from my service to Uncle Sam, hint my last MOS was MOS 37F. I am not saying you have a mental illness but situational problems caused by the stress of living in this Godless world along with said OC.

You may think you have free will and do kind of. However you are controlled by the Universe you love. Your actions are a result of chaos and you deal the hand that is sent your way. Your reaction to a itch on your back or any stimulus could change how the end of the world happens, read up on Chaos and then notice how it is incorporated into your life. Its interesting.

Again you are presenting an unbalanced Oedipus c.

Tell me why did the universe begin to exist. Why is there something rather than nothing, this is not a straw man but yes I know the answer and you don’t.

Don’t look back, its already here, like stink on bogie the bassets dog poo*. Look up and be humble.

Wonderful! Something you will begin to do more of as we proceed with future discussions I hope.

Incorrect I never discount anything. I shelve it, it may have evdience to support it some day. However until that day its simply not rational nor reasonable much like strong atheism.

You have it reversed. But if you think that bit of tripe has any truth in it please present evidence ie some symptoms that is recognized by a medical authority. If you cant you are either malicious lying ignorant or stupid or all of the above.

Hell no, how in the world did you come up with that prattle?

[/QUOTE]you must be a christian[/QUOTE]

I am an open theist christian with red letter tendencies or officially I am an ordained minister with a MA in comparative religions with emphasis on ancient languages as well with dual undergrad degrees ie a BS and a BA, the BA was granted just this year! Hey those night class credits add up! I own a paper tiger church and two humanitarian christian missions so I walk the walk as well as talk the talk. Additionally before you (*)(*)(*)(*) me off all those claims are public record and are available to anyone that asks. I only ask that you send me your transcripts and credentials, and pay a handling and postage fee to which I will reciprocate.

Oh I almost forgot the comeback; You must be an atheist or a naturalist ie human secularists or similar.

ie...... the best examples of anti-christs (against truth) are often seen by observing christians

Well I won't put you out, and if its I that combust I wont expect you to extinguish me fair enough? I am afraid that you are either young and have little life experience and education in these matters (theology metaphysics philosophy). Or maybe you simply don't understand metaphysics at all ? I am sure hared core atheists brain is wired differently than a spiritual persons. Ha ha ha, Christan should be humble and come to God like a child. The radical Atheists and unbeleivers (not to be confused with normal atheist etc who have no axe to grind are arrogant, and worse. In the end they will meet the of Islam or Sheol of Christianity.

Rah

* Bogie doing his dog poo duties ;

 

He does!

In the spring, the flowers bloom, nature procreates.

I make love w/ my girl, we create life.

My brother was cured of cancer, and not from modern medicine, from natural resources.

In volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons.

Gives me compassion, ability to learn, ability to hate, ability to destroy, ability to forgive.

 

...all you have to do is just look in a mirror.

 

'None the wiser'... exactly: you will have lived a life wrapped in a lie, potentially serving malevolent metaphysical forces, or at the very least placing you and your fellow human beings in harm by your focus on otherworldly madness.

I have nothing to repent for to this god; what I have done in life is between me and those I live on earth with. This supposed 'creator of all' is ultimately responsible for the outcome of this universe and everything he chose to place in it; on that level, I am not to blame for anything at all... so why paint me with sin? THAT begs answering, not...

... anything dealing with your imaginary metaphysic.

 

Faith.

Free will.

 

Meaningless, yes.

 

Then I would see an Angel, son of nephilim

 

I've been working with my 2 year old grandson. He has a "respect authority" issue. He has a tantrum....and I state clearly..."no, you can't have it."

And so when I see a post demanding....that God Show Himself......I'm thinking....a simple and firm "no" would be the proper answer.

But that's me. Of course God knows best.

 

Your ignorance (of Christianity) knows no bounds. Here just a tiny selection of what (ITS CALLED LOVE), MODERN Christianity is about, or what you call is the harm and madness of my religion, you are truly lost; * 1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
* 1 Corinthians 13:1 - If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
* 1 Corinthians 13:2 - If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
* 1 Corinthians 13:3 - If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

MORE ON LOVE

* 2 Peter 1:7 - and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love.
* 1 Corinthians 14:1 - Follow the way of love...
* 1 Corinthians 16:14 - Do everything in love.
* 2 Timothy 1:7 - For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline.
* 1 Thessalonians 5:8 - ...let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.
* 1 Timothy 4:12 - ... set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity.
* Amos 5:15 - Hate evil, love good...
>>>>>>>>>>SNIP THIRTY THOUSAND WORDS OF LOVE SNIPPED <<<<<<<<<<<
* 1 John 3:11 - This is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
* 1 John 3:14 - We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death.
* 1 John 3:18 - ... let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
* 1 John 3:23 - And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.
* 1 John 4:7 - ... let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
* 1 John 4:11 - ... since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
* 1 John 4:12 - No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
* 2 John 1:5 - ... I ask that we love one another.
* 1 Peter 1:22 - ...have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart.
* 1 Peter 3:8 - ... live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.
* 1 Peter 4:8 - Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
* 1 Peter 2:17 - Show proper respect to everyone: love the brotherhood of believers...
* 1 John 3:10 - ...Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
* 1 John 4:20 - If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
* 1 John 3:17 - If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him?
* 1 John 4:21 - And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<< Exodus 15:13 - In your unfailing love you will lead the people you have redeemed. In your strength you will guide them to your holy dwelling. Exodus 20:6 - but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments. Exodus 21:5 - But if the servant declares, 'I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,' Exodus 34:6 - ...The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, Exodus 34:7 - maintaining love to thousands... Galatians 5:14 - The entire law is summed up in a single command: "love your neighbor as yourself." Galatians 5:22 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, Galatians 5:6 - ...The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Genesis 20:13 - And when God had me wander from my father's household, I said to her, 'This is how you can show your love to me: Everywhere we go, say of me, "He is my brother." ' " Genesis 22:2 - Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about." Genesis 29:18 - Jacob was in love with Rachel... Genesis 29:20 - So Jacob served seven years to get Rachel, but they seemed like only a few days to him because of his love for her. Genesis 29:32 Hebrews 10:24 - And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. Hebrews 13:5 - Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." Hebrews 6:10 - God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him... Hosea 10:12 - Sow for yourselves righteousness, reap the fruit of unfailing love, and break up your unplowed ground; for it is time to seek the LORD, until he comes and showers righteousness on you. Hosea 11:1 ->>>>SNIP<<<<<<God, gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in love. Therefore you did not desert them, Nehemiah 9:32 - Now therefore, O our God, the great, mighty and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love, do not let all this hardship seem trifling in your eyes&#8212;the hardship that has come upon us, upon our kings and leaders, upon our priests and prophets, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<< and that you are now doing more than you did at first. Revelation 2:4 - Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love. Revelation 3:19 - Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline.>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<.. Romans 8:35 - Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? ... Romans 8:39 - neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Titus 2:2 - Teach the older men to be temperate, worthy of respect, self-controlled, and sound in faith, in love and in endurance. Titus 2:4 - ... train the younger women to love their husbands and children, Titus 3:15 - ...Greet those who love us in the faith... Titus 3:4 - But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, Zechariah 8:17 - ...do not love to swear falsely. I hate all this," declares the LORD. Zechariah 8:19 - ...love truth and peace. Zephaniah 3:17 - The LORD your God is with you... he will quiet you with his love...

More? >>>>read on>>>

1 Chronicles 17:13, 2 Samuel 7:15, 2 Samuel 16:17, 2 Samuel 19:6, Ecclesiastes 3:8, Ecclesiastes 9:1, Ecclesiastes 9:6, 1 Kings 11:2, Job 19:19, Job 37:13, Psalm 11:5, Romans 14:15, Romans 15:30, 2 Corinthians 11:11
More; Scriptures on God's Enduring Love:
2 Chronicles 5:13, 1 Chronicles 16:41, 2 Chronicles 20:21, Ezra 3:11, Psalm 107:1, Psalm 118:1, Psalm 118:29, Psalm 118:3, Psalm 118:4, Psalm 106:1, Psalm 136:1, Psalm 136:2, Psalm 136:3, Psalm 136:4, Psalm 136:5, Psalm 136:6, Psalm 136:7, Psalm 136:8, Psalm 136:9, Psalm 136:10, Psalm 136:11, Psalm 136:12, Psalm 136:13, Psalm 136:14, Psalm 136:15, Psalm 136:16, Psalm 136:17, Psalm 136:18, Psalm 136:19, Psalm 136:20, Psalm 136:21, Psalm 136:22, Psalm 136:23, Psalm 136:24, Psalm 136:25, Psalm 136:26, Psalm 138:8 .

IN ALL 30 THOUSAND WORDS ABOUT LOVE HAD TO BE SNIPPED AND THERE ARE MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE WORDS OF LOVE IN OUR BIBLE...

That is a very small sampling. Your handlers and the devil have deceived you and will it seems until you come face to face with your creator.

That is called rationalizing. God gave you free will. That is what was meant when the bible says that he made us in his (and the angels) images. That is a power beyond what most people realize. We by our free will can and almost have on several occasions destroyed the universe. Do you think God intervened and wiped out the demons and demonic people on earth because of a minor transgression?

No, it was because only Noah and his family were clean and not of Satan. So its the free will to commit sin that is dangerous, and that is why you are painted or that is why you must repent for that sin to remove the stink and awfulness of that sin. You still have many chances (hopefully) before you will be judged by God (who is the only being that can judge you). It's up to you. As I said the worst that I could be guilty is trying to live by the teachings of Jesus, if there is no God I and you will die and that will be that. However if the Hebrew God exists, that will be horrifying for quite a few souls.

Metaphysics is the study of anything not positive ie man made etc, its an area of study and some of the greatest minds in history including Netwon and Godel subscribed to metaphysics.

Ra'h

 

I guess, he's not the shadow of some thoughts.

Christ is risen! He is risen indeed! Alleluia.

http://youtu.be/iuczNQonTXQ

 

Up early aren't you?