Why Don't We Have Shooters In Congress, The Pentagon And The White House?

Because all of these locations, and other government facilities, have been fortified for the safety of the buildings and the occupants. Further, many government workers, including elected officials, enjoy additional security at their homes and when traveling.

So...if the president and Congress can maintain their OWN security, what can possibly prevent them from protecting our schools? The only answer must be it's not considered a priority to them.

I would prefer to see school students go on permanent strike until the president and Congress agree to make school safety a critical priority.

Additionally, the US has ghettoes across the nation, rampant crime and gangs, drug issues, etc. and this places millions of our kids, and their families, in dangerous and non-productive situations. Why should we secure our schools if immediately outside of these schools kids are faced with the horrible trappings of ghettoes and crime?

Government has some problems to solve but so does society...

 

Well...it seems that protecting our schools, protecting all public places, fighting crime, eliminating ghettoes, removing gangs, is today nothing more than political fodder. Across the nation we have these horrific scenarios playing out without any goals to improve. So whether our kids are in a school, or find themselves in our drug infested gangland ghettoes, these kids are basically on their own. Why don't we wish to do better...

 

You do know one would hope that there is a staggeringly huge difference between protecting three locations and 500,000.

 

The reason more places are not fortified is that it would become a police state.

 

Because you don't have anyone who wants to shoot anyone there.

Why do you have so few gun murders in England?

 

You gonna "fortify" every school in the country?

Sure...

 

What if we do the opposite?

How about we trash the zero tolerance violence policy, and allow younger boys to learn how to appropriately regulate aggression through natural peer interaction?

Rough play is important to male development. Violent playgrounds can produce well-regulated confident and honorable men.

 

My kids have an armed guard everywhere outside of school. Why not in school also?

 

Trump was elected because his supporters wanted money (economy) and keeping out immigrants, especially brown people and Muslims. They didn't give a **** about the safety of schools or anyone else. They didn't care about mass shootings, gangs, drugs, ghettoes, children...none of those things. In fact, they are against spending tax dollars on programs that would help to solve those problems and they are against enacting stricter regulations on gun ownership. If you have a population that only cares about themselves and making themselves richer, what can you expect?

 

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Why quit there. Introduce violence everywhere.

Trump 20forever.

 

Well lets also not overlook the fact that there are over 130,000 schools in the US and somewhere over 60 million students. Its a bit more complicated than protecting the capital building and the white house

 

how many banks are fortified in the U.S.?

 

It could be argued that the threat is proportionally greater for politicians and government officials. After all, around 10% of US Presidents have actually been shot but I suspect less than 1% of all students have even been at school during a firearms incident. There will also be a wider scope for the security at a lot of government buildings, protecting sensitive data, equipment and facilities as well as the actual people.

That isn’t to say schools shouldn’t improve their security (though much of that doesn’t need to involve guns at all) but I don’t think this kind of comparison is valid or helpful. The threats, risks and consequences in government buildings are entirely different to those in schools so they should be approached and considered separately, on their own merits.

 

Well that's total nonsense! What did the left and Mr. Obatard do about mass shootings, gangs, drugs, ghettoes, illegals, Children and children with guns. How about the 65000 deaths a years from overdose and illegal drugs while he was in office, The leftist really haven't any accomplishments to crow about! What Mr. Obatard and the left ignored then only got WORSE, now the new administration is saddled with more not less to address..

 

Violence already is everywhere.

 

We find what we look for.

 

My position is that kids and people are killed every day in the US in places other than schools. How can we allow Americans to live in areas in which the government has basically abandoned? In all the areas of the US in which kids and people cannot openly enjoy without fear of assault or murder or whatever crime du jour might take place...the government and society have failed! What good does it do to protect our schools when the moment the kids leave the schools many must navigate crime and gang and drug infested ghettoes? If we can create a safe space around Congress and the White House and other government buildings then why not create safe spaces everywhere? It's not an issue of cost...it's an issue of doing a better job!

 

I prefer not to embellish by talking about a 'police state'. When I take a ferry to attend a baseball game, there is a list of things not allowed on the ferry, with a Homeland Security agent carrying a gun and walking the aisles, then a list of things not allowed in the ball park, then backpacks and bags are physically searched, and we enter through a metal detector. Never have I considered this a police state mentality. It happens to be what is required today to provide reasonable safety and security for people to enjoy their lives. If we can do this for silly baseball games then why can't we do this for our schools?

 

The left opposes this because it knows the very best chance it hse to implement the gun control laws it seeks is to have the occasional pile of bodies to stand on as it preaches the evils of the NRA and firearms.

 

You don't know how right the poster " Fangbeer " is....even if he posted that in sarcasm, he's right.
Respect is earned !

 

Who cares about England? This is about the USA and things are what they are...it serves no purpose to compare the US with England since the two nations have little in common. I'm sure a qualified sociologist or other professional can give us the myriad reasons why people everywhere in the world have no problem killing each other. There is not a single reason! It's not about guns...or mental health...or environments...or drugs...etc. etc...it's about all of these things and others.

BTW; I'm guessing there are plenty of Americans and others who would love to shoot a few people in Washington...

 

Please explain why we fortify every airport...every sports stadium?

 

People my age lived through this form of behavior...a school spat was resolved after school with a simple fist-fight and that was basically the end of it. Today they might be resolved with knives and guns, including going after kids in their homes. Forgetting the gun violence for a moment, don't you think in our schools/society today that plenty of kids experience racial discrimination, gender discrimination, bullying, peer pressure, etc.? My point is if we cannot provide in the US a safe and secure place for people to attend school, to live, to work, etc. then in the grand scheme of things how many other problems are we creating?

 

Yes...you are 100% correct...and IMO it cannot be resolved. For whatever reason humans, especially those in the US, have reached a point in which we have become disgustingly non-productive and self-serving. Used to be we knew never to debate/discuss religion, but today we can't intellectually discuss any topic without extreme bias...you can see this all over this forum. As long as Americans are incapable of finding consensus, incapable of collectively considering what's in the best interest of the nation...we are headed down a scary path...