Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

There are NOT two versions of the Pfizer vaccine.

In fact, not even the booster I just got today is different.

Beyond that, you're simply guessing at what might happen due to full certification of the Pfizer vaccine. There is NOWHERE NEAR enough Pfizer vaccine being produced today to match need. Vaccine shortage is still an emergency situation even considering all vaccines produced by all countries.

If you think the Pfizer vaccine is being delivered under the EUA, then cite evidence of that.

 

So why the video for one when you are completely unaware of the other?

What has been tested for decades is the preventions we have at our fingertips. I’m weary of everyone trying to medicate our way out of a problem we ate our way into.

Agree an antiviral is unlikely to solve the problem. Especially one contraindicated for a large percentage of people who need it most.

Ad hominem fallacy is often the product of emotion. If your fallacious arguments are not emotion based you have my apologies.

Now you are moving on to appeal to the stone fallacy. What facts would your like to contest? You want to provide evidence Ritonavir decreases systemic metabolism?

What is misuse? Around 20% of prescriptions are off label. The percentage is much higher in pediatrics. Where is the outrage when children are given hormones and hormone blockers off label? Why is it only a big deal now with one or two politically charged drugs tried on Covid?

Try this one. SMH!

No. You are only aware of a very narrow spectrum of information. That narrow spectrum is intentionally crafted and presented to make you react a certain way. I can’t project that because my knowledge and posts are based on the totality of empirical evidence, not formal media and YouTube.

Being only aware of one is evidence someone is pulling your strings. Have you ever questioned why you are inundated with just small pieces of information over and over by media?

Ah, yes. I present facts and again the appeal to the stone fallacy comes out. Calling facts stupid doesn’t make them go away. At some point you will have to face the facts.

If you are only aware of a very narrow spectrum of information then you have allowed someone/something to control you by controlling that information.

 

I can't help you anymore.

I can keep explaining how western medicine works, including FDA, CDC, etc.

And, you can keep saying you don't like how it works.

But, that's just tough cookies unless we decide that FDA certification is no longer necessary - that drug companies can inject patients with whatever they want.

I KNOW there are people who want that change. In 2000, the very first election page for the Libertarian candidate (I think it was Larry Browne) included ONE ISSUE ONLY. And that issue was to allow companies to manufacture and deliver drugs and other medical solutions with NO federal testing or certification of any kind.

That seems to be EXACTLY what you support.

 

That is not even SLIGHTLY good enough in explaining a conspiracy theory of the type being claimed.

 

Not when you are arguing from ignorance. You can't help anybody until you help yourself

You don't seem to know. Get some education then maybe you can

You don't.

How would you have FDA certification on treatments for a virus that just started existing?

Do you expect doctors just to let people die because bureaucracy is slow?

If so you are a science denier. And you believe adhering to idiotic code is more important than saving lives.

I don't think you are as devoid of knowledge and ethics as you make yourself out to be. You are simply too devout to your political orthodoxy to question it. To me that's just sad.

 

Hmmmm…. let’s see. I posted this to another PF member. Not you.

Post #278 was addressed to another PF member.

Can you use the quote function to show I addressed this quote to you?

Can you quote me saying you had an emotional reaction?

LOL. Look up what empirical evidence is and get back to me. I would like to know when experimentation in the form of clinical trials stopped being empirical evidence. I’m surprised this many people survived Covid.

 

You have to have anything above negative credibility for this kind of crap to have any impact.

You are acting as though you are incredibly ignorant on this subject.

 

I don't have an "argument". All I'm doing is pointing to how our system works.

I explained this in multiple ways.
- it means deciding that corporations can create and distribute medicine without federal certification or testing.
- it means that the individual (and the public) becomes reliant on solutions that have no proof of efficacy while ignoring solutions that do.

BS. There are NO DOSAGES for use of ivermectin in conjunction with COVID - whether for prevention or treatment.

How many times do I need to repeat myself before you manage to remember???

Claimed miracle cures reduce the desire by individuals to seek real solutions.

Anyone who thinks ivermectin could reduce the chance of getting COVID or will save them if they contract the disease would be encouraged to ignore masks, vaccines, social distancing, etc. - the solutions proven to be successful.

Was that enough times for you to remember???

 

I started a separate thread just for the issue of the Pfizer vaccine "approval".

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...bout-fda’s-approval-of-pfizer-vaccine.591493/

 

The FDA, WHO, NIAID, CDC, etc., have strong science based requirements for clinical trials and what counts as evidence that would justify certification.

You can't say "empirical" and then claim that is somehow good enough for some sort of decision to start injecting the public. Surely you recognize that.

 

Ivermectin works and works well. You can watch doctor after doctor that prescribed it testify. You can look at Mexico, India, and other nations that employed it with tremendous success. Relying on a politicized CDC is a fool's game.

Hell, when I caught CV-19 and was sick for 8 solid days, I finally scored HCQ. Two days later.... I was done with the fevers, headaches, nausea, and more. It really worked combined with Zinc, Vitamin D, and a shot of whiskey at night. O.K.... maybe not the whiskey.

 

That is just plain silly. You might try charging me with pointing to what experts say.

??? This happens ALL THE TIME!!

Think about how vaccine certification was accomplished as an example.

Do you expect doctors to inject people with untested drugs from various corporations?

Having serious control of medicine and medical procedures is how western medicine, including science based medicine, has been so spectacularly successful.

 

No, I'm pointing out YOUR ignorance.

If you had ANY idea of how there could be a conspiracy of the nature you propose, then you need to state it.

Otherwise, you are just lodging false claims against US medicine. And, you really need to STOP that.

 

No you aren't. You haven't a clue.

Explanations from ignorance mean nothing

Dumb argument. There couldn't be because covid 19 is a novel virus.

I'm sorry you can't accept this fact

It's not a memory issue. You are repeating ignorance. It'll never be effective with me. All you can do is waste your life insisting until your death or give up.

it isn't a claimed miracle cure it is an FDA approved drug.

When you lie and misrepresent things it only damages your credibility.

I haven't stated a damn thing about it being a preventive and you know that.

When you attack your own strawman fallacies it damages your credibility.

 

Look up the term “empirical evidence”. GoReadmore and post less.

 

No you aren't. You can't you aren't coming from a place of knowledge.

I have stated no conspiracy. Your insurance on gaslighting is a symptom of dishonesty.

The FDA isn't medicine is bureaucracy.

 

Back when I and you were chatting a lot one day or so, it was then Pravda by punishing me for something I did not do at all. Then I chatted with you and you said you did not see me do it either. Inciting violence was the claim.

 

uninformed Opinion noted.

I don't just blindly trust. You may... Seems to much like religion to me.

This is one of those things that makes you appear ignorant.

A pathologist administering a proven safe drug in a hospital setting is strict control.

What you seem to want is control over science to stop it when it undermines your political narrative.

 

On Depleted Uranium. The term means it is safe. I am with science on that.

 

LOL!

You should apply for a medical degree!! Obviously, you are WAY smarter than western medicine of the last 100 years.

 

Distributed via the CDC Health Alert Network
August 26, 2021, 11:40 AM ET
CDCHAN-00449

Summary
Ivermectin is a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved prescription medication used to treat certain infections caused by internal and external parasites. When used as prescribed for approved indications, it is generally safe and well tolerated.

During the COVID-19 pandemic, ivermectin dispensing by retail pharmacies has increased, as has use of veterinary formulations available over the counter but not intended for human use. FDA has cautioned about the potential risks of use for prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

 

EUA is only available if no certified treatments are available. If Pfizer’s certified treatment were available there would no longer be a need for EUA. You are still getting the uncertified version.

 

All combined studies show it’s effective at 68%.

 

Have you ever been treated for CV19?

Can you explain to us what Biden's cure is?

 

No, YOU go look it up.

Saying data is "empirical" does not mean it is justification for any action WHATSOEVER.