Why Israel attacked Gaza?

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  1. Death

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    First off the above makes no grammatical sense and it appears someone above is using an ai device with a translator and the syntax has changed from the other writings under the same name.

    Next the above broken and fractured syntax appears to try deny the expulsion of Miizrahi (Tsfadic) Jews from Arab countries.

    Again all I can do when this thread appears to be penetrated with false statements is to provide information showing the falsehood of the statement.


    https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-...rael/half-israels-jews-came-muslim-countries/


    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commo...JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica


    https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/fd/il20062006_07/il20062006_07en.pdf


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewis...ximately,countries throughout Africa and Asia.

    https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1881&context=ilj

    https://forward.com/culture/199257/the-inconvenient-truth-about-jews-from-arab-lands/
     
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    They have no problem with Palestinians. Their problem is with Hamas. They will provide death to Hamas.
     
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    You wrote "There is no ethnic cleansing"... and I sourced it happened. That you support these war crimes under the guise of some dumb excuse is to no surprise of anybody.
     
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    I sourced that the Jews deported "Most of them were elderly, women, or children". That you refuse to see any difference between soldiers/terrorists and civilians, is typical a pro Israeli response and very much how Hamas operates.
     
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    You are responding to:
    Deporting people based on their ethnic background is what the Jews did.
    And here you are inventing an excuse for war crimes.


    I got it sourced here that it did happen
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...l-attacked-gaza.614456/page-5#post-1074534160

    It's well known that this happened. It's also a theme that Israeli Jews deny the nakba of every happening. Israeli politicians even tried to make this truth a crime to tell in their attempts to rewrite their history. It seems that you're one of these Israeli's who goes full in to deny your past. pathetic. Dull. And rather trolling. It's like talking to a flat earther.
     
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    You are responding to a discussion where it got suggested that Israel should colonize it all.
    And subsequently I noted that I doubt Israel would give the Palestinians equal rights if Israel would do that.

    And I doubt that, since it would mean Israel would absorb millions of Arabs, and that would end the racist idea of having a Jewish homeland with a clear Jewish majority by having a government where Jews can get outvoted by Arabs.
     
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    How can Israel colonize its own land? Gaza is part of Israel. Then your doubt is misguided. About 1/4 of Israelis are Arab muslims that you would call Palestinians. They have the same rights as any other Israeli.

    The Palestinians in Gaza chose to live there away from Jews. They appear to hate Jews. Why do you think that would change? My guess is that, once Hamas disappears, Israel may cede the land to them if they want it. So far they haven't wanted a two state solution. They have only wanted Israel. The post Hamas Gaza will be messy for a while. No doubt about that. Hamas made a mess of it.
     
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    In case you forgot, perhaps intentionally. Israel movement into Gaza was in retaliation for Hamas surprise, unexpected, unprovoked attack on Israel along with Hamas taking of hostages from Israel. Hamas started this war.
     
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    Go source this.

    I've already sourced that the Jew deported Palestinians on a massive scale and dumped them into Gaza where they control all it's borders so those millions get to live and die in severe poverty for being Arabs. And I find it very Israeli you keep on trying to rewrite your history.
     
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    No point in even dealing with you. Gaza was taken from Egypt during the 6 day war. It was not taken from "Palestinians." Nobody was dumped there. Sorry.
     
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    The selective memory of pro Hamas supporters on this board speaks for itself.
     
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    Ouuu - you mean 6.?

    No, I think the reason Israel attacked Gaza was 9.
     
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    I'm not seeing a source, just an opinion that keeps repeating and is false.
     
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    Israel wanted to get rid of the palestinians without paying a price internationally, and #6 gave them the excuse to do it. As always, they are disproportionate in their response, already killing 10 times as many civilians as they lost and taking an idiotic hot-headed approach to the problem.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are absolutely right - Oct 7 Hamas attack on Israel gave Israel excuse to attack Hamas, Japanese attack on Perl Harbor gave the US excuse to attack Japan, Nazi Germany attack on Soviet Union gave Soviet Union excuse to attack Germany, etc.
     
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    lol, well I don't know if those sits are really all comparable. The Japanese were being imperialistic, and the US was being adversarial, towards Japan well before Pearl Harbor, Japan just miscalculated the effect of their attack and America didn't know where they were going to attack. The Nazis and Soviets hated each other and Stalin wanted more time to prepare for the confrontation, as did Hitler when he was thinking more clearly.

    I am saying that Israel has long wanted to eliminate not just Hamas but Palestinians in Gaza. Not necessarily killed, but eliminated however they can. But before being attacked like this, they couldn't do it without jeopardizing critical support from the US, and destabilizing a region where they are surrounded by enemies (albeit weak and pathetic ones). I think they overestimated how unconditional their support would be, but it's definitely helped them to slaughter and destroy lots of kids and terrorists without losing American support.
     
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    The sources are all over the internet. Look them up.
     
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    On the poll, I ticked #11 - None of the above
     
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    I find that "Gaza is part of Israel" is wrong all over the internet. And you're not proving a thing.
    So that makes that your Jewish state is the violent occupying and colonizer of the state of Palestine.
     
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    Only in your mind. Gaza is part of Israel. It has been since it was taken from Egypt in the 6 day war.
     
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    Not seeing any proof that it's still part of Israel.
    If it was part of Israel, than those civilians would be Israeli and allowed to vote on an Israeli government, but they are not.
    Obviously you're just making it all up.

    And subsequently Israel is the occupier and colonizer of the state of Palestine.
    The UNSC even put up a binding resolution against Israel, demanding it removes it's civilians out of the state of Palestine, which includes East-Jerusalem.
     
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