Hospital records are not vital records. Nor have you cited what law you are talking about. Nor have you ever identified anyone in Hawaii you have spoken too. So call Hawaii- give us the name of the person who tells you that the Hospitals have all of their birth records since 1962. And the name of the person who says you can obtain a copy of an original birth certificate.
Call Hawaii Department of Health @ 1250 Punchbowl St. Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 Phone (80 586-4400 Fax (80 586-4444 Record the name of the official you spoke with and let me know what they tell you. Or go sit in the corner.
Wow. How can we deny something so totally reliant upon your word of what happened, and completely without any back up? Since your post is completely contrary to what Hawaii says in writing- I say no- don't believe it.
like I said, I provided the official govn't website as well as the email reply I received from the DoH stating they only issue COLB's. Your rebuttal is.........."nuh uh". here they are again..............http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ama-prove-his-eligibility-64.html#post3678809 You are more than capable of sending an email to the email address in my reply to check for yourself. and the OFFICIAL govn't website for hawaii confirming the email........ http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl that's what actual evidence looks like. I know it's kryptonite to you birthers. But simply saying "nuh uh" is not a rebuttal.
I never understood why someone has to be american born to be president. That's kind of like how King's and Queens had to have royal blood (after many years they became inbred and mentally retarded). But I believe the founding fathers did this to keep a British citizen from climbing up the ranks to president just to attempt to ruin the system. I think it should be changed, but no way 2/3rds of congress would vote to change the constitution for that.
Actually I called yesterday. I got a recording. You still havent' provided the name of anyone that you spoke with. Funny you demand that we call and get a name but you have never called yourself and gotten a name. The state of Hawaii says in writing that they don't provide Certificates of Live Birth. To counter that- you say "someone said to someone else that they can get one"
You first posted this on 2/21/11. Did you call then? Who did you talk to? I've been trying to call ever since then. What number? What office did you call then?
Here is the deal, they do it for a very good reason. They want to make sure that the President has no other allegiance either known, or unknown to ANY other country or people. Now suppose for a moment, just suppose...that Obama really was not born here, and had a deep down resentment for the Brits, because they gave his country ''Kenya'' a very difficult time in history. Well if things came up with Britain he may still hold these bad feelings toward them and not have the Countries best interest in mind. Situations like this could be very real in many instances.. It is very important he be a natural born citizen....follow? There are many people of influence that feel the wealth of America should be divided throughout the world. Now many of these are obviously not born in America, do you think it would be smart to have one of them as President?,,,I dont...
..or what if America was attacked by Kenya, and Obama's family still lives there, he may be more hesitant than he already is to retaliate.
this is what hawaii says........ http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl which was confirmed here...............http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ama-prove-his-eligibility-64.html#post3678809 no amount of foot stomping is going to change reality.
I can't believe even after the laws were posted a false claim was made. It doesn't say only a natural born citizen. It says natural born or a citizen. This means an immigrant whom has earned citizenship is qualified to be president.
That's incredibly incorrect Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
W....T....F? Do you see how it says natural born citizen OR a Citizen. What is the point of highlighting it says "at the time of adoption of the Constitution?" Claiming it only applied when the adoption happened means it doesnt apply at all anymore. Also look at the time frame given. The person must be a resident for 14 years. That means an immigrant who achieves citizenship and has live in the US for fourteen years is qualified. You guys are falsely claiming it says one must be born in the US. It clearly gives two conditions that would apply to obama: Be a natural born citizen or a citizen. Residency in the US for fourteen years. Any immigrant who is a citizen with 14 years residency is qualified which makes swarzzenegger qualified to
Were you dropped on your head as a baby? That is the most twisted argument I have heard yet. You should get an award of some sort.
So your new standard is if a Presidential candidate has family living in another country they can't be President? Trump still has family in Scotland- will he be willing to retaliate when hordes of kilt wearing men swinging claymores attack New England? Clearly Jingle is excluded. Seriously we will need to be doing some seriously in depth family checks of candidates in the future to make sure they have no family living in any foreign country....