Why it doesn't matter if Obama was born in Kenya

Reposting for sheer brilliance.

 

Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, Sr. were married on February 2, 1961. Barack Jr was born on August 4, 1961.

 

Actually no they weren't because it just so happens that Barack Sr. had a wife in Kenya. There was no way to know this is Obama was born in Hawaii, but if he was born in Kenya Barack Sr. would've been legally married to his first and Kenyan wife, and therefore Barack Jr. would've been born out of wedlock. But it doesn't really matter, becasue birthers ignore all of the evidence suggesting that not only was Barack Jr born in Hawaii, but Barack Sr. returned to Kenya in 1962. There is ample evidence proving that statement. Including employment records, Barack Sr's college degree, passports, etc...Unless it's all a liberal conspiracy. He is a natural born citizen. Game. Set. Match.

 

The law in effect at the time of obama's birth make no mention of the parents marital status.

http://www.brianwilliamslaw.com/lawyer-attorney-5365F1DF-5EEB-4DC0-BD003808196CBB9E.html

 

Did you even read your source? It was just some guy summarizing the history of nationality laws. The only problem is...it didn't actually cite one law. The United States Code, a primary reference, is very clear on the issue.

 

Well, it's all very interesting but it will never be hacked out by attorneys, and even if it were anything can be decided regardless of whats correct. This is why we have to correct this thing with Obama and let these states pass some new laws as to what is acceptable proof. As it is now that Colb is nothing more than scrap paper if his hospital can not be verified. Anybody could walk in there and say,,Oh my wife just gave birth,,,BOOM,,,citizen,,,absurd!
Obama needs to man up and get this over with, I am pretty sure he is legit but the COLB lacks so much information that if he cant back the reason it was issued than it's crap.

I am embarrassed this guy is our President, he is such a frigin coward..and he's got some nerve to think people would just take his word for anything. We tried that already,,worked about a couple of months....

A Colb is proof of ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiip!
"One officially confirms and records a newborn child’s identity and details of his or her birth, while the other only confirms that someone reported the birth of a child. Also, a 'certificate of live birth' is very easy to get because the standards are much lower, while a 'birth certificate' is only gotten through a long and detailed process wherein identity must be proved beyond any doubt."

So we have some jack ass in office that is not proven by any doubt TO BE A CITIZEN.............PERFECT!

 

So, what are you saying? that Obama Jr. is a ...."gasp" "gasp".....a bastard?

 

The State certifies the COLB.. I don't suppose that you are old enough to know that the Draft Boards during the VietNam war required a COLB in matters of a father's deferrment.

Your OPINION of the validity of the COLB.. has absolutely nothing to do with reality.

 

unfortunately for you birthers, the ONLY birth certificate hawaii issues is a COLB..........

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

 

Having you quote Trump's PR flack regarding what is a birth certificate just goes to show that you really don't care what the truth is.

He probably is just ignorant. You have no such excuse.

 

Use your common sense....please I am begging you... Do you understand the difference, do you? One uses the other as it's proof, because it can not stand on it's own....THAT SIMPLE.
I KNOW YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THIS, now you just have to be honest.

 

common sense has nothing to do with it. We're talking about the law. The COLB is LEGAL PROOF of his birth, and the ONLY document hawaii will issue. I KNOW YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THIS, now you just have to be honest.

 

Okay- so you quoted Trump's PR flack because your definition can't stand on its own?

I think I get this now.

Since Hawaii actually defines both the Certificate of Birth and the Certification of Birth as birth certificates, you can't quote a real source, so you quote whatever uninformed quote supports your position.

Well that makes perfect sense now that you explained it.

 

Wrong, to my knowledge he can request the original from the hospital themselves. This would also be accepted as proof. I know you can understand this...

 

Nope, hawaii states flat out on the official govn't website they only issue COLB's

 

As was already explained to you- the hospitals likely do not have the originals anymore.

More importantly- any birth certificates at the hospital are not legal 'originals' and would not be accepted as proof by for instance, the State Department.

What is proof- is a legally certified birth certificate- like President Obama's Certification of Live Birth.

 

Not anymore..

Record keeping of paper originals is a huge business like at Iron Mountain.

You pay to have them stored so they are safe from fire, flood and earthquake.

Call you local hospital and ask them where they store 30 year old paper records.

Everyone has gone to computer record keeping.

 

Whom did you speak with when you called? Of course the post of fake emails does not count, especially without a Hawaiian official's name.

 

It is a federal crime to destroy vital records. Call Hawaii and ask to clarify your false assumptions. Be sure to get the mane of the official you talked to for verification.

 

It is a federal crime to destroy vital records. Call Hawaii and confirm your false assumptions. Be sure to get the name of the Hawaiian official you speak to for verification.

 

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It is a federal crime to destroy vital records.

 

Yes.. that's why they have gone to computers and the original paper records are stored far away.. Perhaps at Iron Mountain..

That's where all our family medical and birth records are stored from the 1950s.

Accessing them is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed near impossible..

Nobody ties up acres and acres of buildings to keep paper records anymore.

 

Near impossible, or impossible?

 

nope, hospitals only keep birth records for 6 years. And, even if he was able to obtain one from the hospital, it's meaningless because it's not a certified copy issued by the department of health.

hawaii only issues COLB's.........

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

I know you can understand this.