Why prostitution and “sexual tourism” are bad?

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  1. Daybreaker

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    Bo Derek?

    You're citing Bo Derek as an example of your people?
     
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    Again, this thread is not about Ann Coulter, not even about the legality of prostitution, but about the morality (or immorality) of prostitution.
    Thanks.
    Legality (not equal to) Morality
     
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    Interesting. All this time I'd thought it was legal there too.

    I lived in Winnemucca, Battle Mountain, and just outside of Ely... all of which have (or had) brothels. It seemed to be a non-issue with locals.
     
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    Morality calls in a confusing debate. How often does sex happen when one party senses an advantage to the act? How can we morally differentiate between prostitution and any sexual strategy for self improvement. Prostitution is about the buying and selling of sex, and you cannot separate those who profit from it from a moral debate.
     
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    But I do not want to separate who profit from it from a moral debate.
    In fact, the moral debate is what I am trying to have here, despite having people talk about different issues.
     
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    So basically ... watching FOX ... is like sexual tourism?

    What's it called when you sell your vote in exchange for Ann Coulter's image on your television?

    I've never understood the appeal of Ann Coulter, myself. Michelle Malkin, now she's cute. But not so cute I'll let her tell me who to vote for.
     
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    I believe that women who work in this industry are often abused and exploited. Some are acting in a realistic way and are able to protect themselves, but many more are taken advantage of by pimps. I do not believe that legalization would rid the sex industry of pimps, it would cause them to be more adept at using the law to their advantage. We do not live in a culture which has accepted prostitution and legalization will not create acceptance, it will just make it easier for the strong to prey on the weak.
     
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    Doesn't treating them like criminals make that easier, not harder?
     
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    How?

    Again, how the "strong" preys the "weak" in a legalized prostitution environment and culture?
     
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    It doesn't make it easier or harder, it is an effort to reduce the activity of it.
     
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    But it's an effort that doesn't seem to work. It's like making abortion illegal, it doesn't actually stop abortions, it just gives the state the ability to punish abortions. Same with prostitution. The government cannot stop it, and asking them to only causes more problems for the people we want to help.
     
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    Where have you seen a legalized prostitution culture? Amsterdam? Look at the exploitation statistic there, look at the number of illegal sexual service companies operating out of there. Is this part of some bright future you see?
     
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    If the "people we want to help" is referred to "prostitutes", why they would need help?
    I mean, if they are somehow forced to do something they do not want, they can just go to the police, no?
     
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    The problem with this mentality is the same could be said for a lot of crimes. But the law serves to discourage law abiding citizens who would otherwise participate in said action. There is less prostitution with it being illegal, and that's a good thing. So are you just an Anarchist?
     
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    You are talking very much in general terms.
    Would you please tell me exactly at what “exploitation statistics” you are referring to?
    And what would the “illegal sexual service” term be referred to?

    I am not much into this matter, but I do not have any data that sexual exploitation in Amsterdam should be higher than, say, New York..
     
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    Not if they're prostitutes. She says, "This guy tried to force me to have sex," the cops say, "What were you doing alone with him?" She says, "I'm a prostitute."
     
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    You can not force a prostitute to have sex with you.
    It is illegal (=rape)
     
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    We cant stop prostitution-- you are correct. But when we make anything unethical legal, whether its predatory lending practices or prostitution, it opens the doors for profiteers who care nothing about the victims or the consequences. Abortion is an entirely different issue, you don't get paid to have an abortion, and it is not am enjoyable leisure activity.
     
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    I do not want to force you to answer but..
    You still have to provide any evidence that prostitution leads inevitably to “predatory” behaviours.
     
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    Good point. This is only my opinion. I have been a safe house for prostitutes. My opinion of their condition is only based on my personal experience.
     
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    I have engaged with prostitutes in the past, and I can also speak by experience too.
    I have never harassed anyone.
    I have asked them several times if they have been forced to do what they do and all of them replied to me that they were in the job as they wanted/needed to.
    None of them seemed to have been forced.
    They all seemed nice people, in fact, nicer than the non-pro girls I have met.
    I have also become friend with a few of them.
    I concluded that prostitution may be a waste of money for customers and a waste of time for women, but I did not find anything particularly wrong or evil in the process.
    Again, I speak by my own experience.
     
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    Personally I don't like seeing something that is supposed to a sacred act(sex) being reduced to the level of commercial transaction.

    I thought we as human beings had better respect for our bodies than to use them in such a gross manner.

    The way I see it is if you are such a loser that you have to purchase your sex, then maybe that is mother nature telling you that you are being weeded out of the gene pool for reason.
     
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    It happens quite often that people, when confronted with ideas they could not overcome with reaason and arguing, resort to insulting the opponent.
     
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    That's not a very capitalistic view..

    Holy crap though! I think I agree!!!
     
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    it looks like I'm winning!!
    you losers don't know what your'e talking about..

    prostitutes are gods gift to man..just ask any politician..
     

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