Why should people be forced to get the vaccine in order to protect others who choose not to get it?

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    What govt vaccine mandate? There isn’t one at this point in time. If one is instituted for federal employees then that would be unfortunate for them.
     
  2. Sirius Black

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    I guess it is time to ask the question: What are the benefits of people not getting the vaccine?
     
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    Define the mechanics of that. If you are vaccinated, your bodies antibodies kill it off.
     
  4. Richard Franks

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    I know for a fact we'll all die. Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Those are facts that are true. It should be of importance that we get the vaccine and live a little bit longer.
    If none of were to ignore the vaccine, How would we be able to survive? Do you have an answer for that? I don't know how you know that the shots are fatal, but it's better than getting sick from COVID 19. How do you know that those vaccine shots are fatal? and Who told you that they were? FYI: I'm as "Down To Earth" about this like anyone else and that's a fact. Put that in you pipe and smoke it.
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    Non sequitur, does not follow, deflection, irrelevant, etc.
     
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    The comment is self-evident.

    Give it some thought, you'll get it.
     
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    Irrelevant and off point to the prior thread.

    If you want to start a new thread, feel free to do a new OP on the subject.
     
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    I accept your surrender.
     
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  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Incompetent rebuttal; non argument, sophomoric mental gymnastics do not merit continued discourse
     
  10. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    The vaccine is what saves lives. If people want it they can get it. Why should it be mandated?
     
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    And yet you surrendered. Good move.
     
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    I'm more afraid of the vaccinated then the unvaccinated :)

    One thing that is a constant is no one really knows squat about this pathogen.. People want to roll up their sleeves for every experimental vaccine then God love them.. I personally think in the long run those that chose to contract and allow their own immune systems to fight back the virus will be the strongest and most resistant in the end while the altered immune system subjects will suffer longer and greater then the naturalist!

    The epidemic that never was
    The real epidemic, people reluctance to history and their willingness to repeat the worst of it. In this case, I simply say to all the vaxxers "You first" ;)
     
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    Nothing makes a Democrat happier than taking someone else’s money by force.
    Second to that, they like dictating how others live their lives, often with no logic or reason behind it.
     
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    obviously not, as it's a choice if you work there or not....
     
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    Do you feel the same way about how the government should deal with the flu? Should flu shots become mandatory now? Should the government spend gazillions of tax dollars "protecting" us from the flu?
     
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    It's not a vaccine, and it doesn't work.
     
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    You didn't answer the questions that I posted and How do you know that it's not a vaccine and it doesn't work? What are your facts that you may know about that you know? I don't think you know your facts or if they're true.
     
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    That is up to private enterprise, whether or not they want to mandate it .

    The logical guess is liability, that they mandate it to prevent some mom or pop or relative from a deceased employee from Covid from suing because they didn't mandate it, and I suspect they would have a darn good argument in court.

    That's probably the reason, though, if you want to give the benefit of the doubt, that some corporations might pursue a policy more than just
    financial self interest, that some enterprises might actually be concerned with saving lives.
     
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    Please abstain from untruthful comments regarding reasons for posting, you are not qualified to render such a judgement.

    You may ask, but do not declare, that is courtesy.

    Reread this comment until comprehension is achieved, repeat as needed.

    No further comment will be made on this conversation.
     
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    What are the benefits for not getting the Vaccine?
     
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    I am as qualified as anyone. Being silent is a good move on your part. You have already dug a deep enough hole.
     
  22. Richard Franks

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    There aren't any. If you catch the Coronavirus Delta, The benefits you lose out.
     
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    I don’t believe it’s possible to mandate a vaccine in the US but, many are going to get a “rights” lesson with the unvaccinated given difficult choices.
    Do you want to work? Do you want to go to the grocery? Do you want to live in this community?

    I believe the true anti-vax population is small enough that we can achieve our goal without them. However, it’s the political resistance we need to stop messing around with and leave them with stark choices.

    We’re definitely going to get a lesson on the depth of character issues within our political class. The opportunistic trash that operates within it.
     
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    Whatever.

    Now pester someone else who gives a **** about your comments.
     
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    Those variables are yet to be realized. It's experimental and very new, give it time, the fact that a booster is required so soon after inoculation should at least tell you that the previous generation of the vaccine is lacking and not really targeted/targeting COVID-19. Nor is it stopping it from mutation or reducing the level of spread and actually INCREASED it's contagion of those vaxxed..

    Soon it will mutate to a variant that no one can ward off..
     
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