Why should people be forced to get the vaccine in order to protect others who choose not to get it?

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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said, I too do not want to get into an all out Roe V Wade debate. With that being said, you now understand the context behind my statement of...

    "For the same reason that a man choosing to use his body to commit rape is NOT bodily autonomy. Crimes are not determined based on the choice of what the potential assailant chooses to do with their body."

    The real debate is NOT about bodily autonomy.
     
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Isn't terminal cancer rather a bit of an emergency?
     
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    That's what I had been discussing
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    During the actual Pfizer controlled tests, 15 of the vaccinated died and 14 of the control group died. Since it was unleashed on the public we will never know more.
     
  5. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you said..."How is a woman being able to decide what she wants to do with what is in her own BODY, not bodily autonomy?"

    You were then asking how is it NOT bodily autonomy. I explained how.

    In my mind, this conversation has run its course. If you continue responding however, so will I.
     
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    I disagree that you explained how. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Do an audit. Quantify the number of unvaccinated teachers. The english used was pretty simple.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Gosh, that seems to have hit a nerve. And now, provide your citation.
     
  9. Richard Franks

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    https://www.wired.com/story/the-dam-is-breaking-on-vaccine-mandates/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
    I never said the vaccine shots were fatal and neither did you. I don't know where you get such nonsense that the vaccines were fatal. I don't see any evidence of it and neither should you. Those shots won't kill you but save your life and that is a fact. I think everyone should get the shots to protect themselves and others and it is important for all to do it whether they want to or not. It's a matter of life and death.
     
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    Please share when you do. My current understanding of this delta variant is that the vaccinated may actually be spreading this quite well and be asymptomatic externally, even in viral load amounts, which is quite interesting to say the least.
     
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    Simply because Democrat politicians really love forcing people to do or not do things.
     
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    Like wanting to force women to not have a choice when it comes to their own body? Or wanting to force gays to settle for a civil union instead of being able to legally get married? My point? Glad you asked....there are ass clowns on BOTH sides of the political aisle who want to force their views onto others. Let's not even try to pretend it's one sided.
     
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    there in an emergency component to it, but unless your having symptoms, they won't help, long term treatment is not the job of the ER
     
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    I'm of the Dennis Prager school.In other words to say I do not trust the
    scientist.Especially Fauci, The CDC and NIH. They knowingly hoodwinked
    and Lied to us.In Pragers case it was the use of certain Known drugs
    that Are if not cures but the next best thing.The first being Hydroxychloroquine
    with added zinc.It's only been around 60 years.
    Prager got a doctor to prescribe it for him.He took for some time every day and
    swore by it.Way before any " so called " vaccine was available.
    Those like Fauci,The CDC and even the MSM went on a campaign to
    mock and then demand that Hydroxycloroquine was Not made available.
    Insisting it be banned and Doctors should not Prescribe.But Prager used
    his trusted Doctor and was given a prescription.He then started on a better drug with
    fullproof results.Remdesivir was FDA Approved since it was shown to
    relieve Covid faster when Infected.
    Again the Prager rule.I am not going to get Vaccinated because I do not
    trust the Science.We were lied too many times.Plus Scientist are more
    concerned like Many a Doctor { we have recently found } in demonstrating
    how Woke they are.
     
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  15. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How do we know that?
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    We don't. You will never see a link to a verifiable source to that BS.

    Unsubstantiated horseshit, and you know it.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Prager had COVID?
     
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    Actually fact you don’t know.
     
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    That's not a very good analogy.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you understand you can die even if you are vaccinated?
     
  23. WalterSobchak

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    I can die walking accross the street. Common sense tells me not to walk directly in front of a moving vehicle. Not sure what anti vaxxers senses are telling them.
     
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    So now the vaccinated can die after claiming they can’t but mandating vaccinations makes sense?

    The CDC isn’t recording the vaccinated sick with Covid.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Show me any quote where any medical professional or scientist told us that the vaccinated can't die from Covid. Or is that more made up bs you read from some anti vaxx trumpists blog?

    Link the CDC proving this or that claim falls into your first whopper.
     
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