Why some Egyptians are fuming over Netflix's Black Cleopatra

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  1. Soupnazi

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    I did not try to quote you but I did correct your revisionist crap

    When you figure out what the word quote means come back in the mean time go somewhere else so that the adults can talk
     
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    Jesus was not black... he was not white either, more of a brown

    Christianity is a middle eastern religion, so make sense Jesus would be middle eastern
     
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    Cleopatra was Greek, the Ptolemaic dynasty. The Egyptians are correct. The movie makers wrong. She wasn’t black. But movies are movies, made for entertainment unless it is a historical documentary. You could make Cleopatra green and from Mars in a SCI-FI movie if one likes. I take it a docudrama isn’t a real documentary and is based in history as an event, but shows the event to entice movie goers in a very unrealistic and inaccurate way according to historical fact.


    If Netflix has Cleopatra being black, I wouldn’t trust the docudrama to actual show historical facts. I’d place this in the fictional category along with everything it shows.
     
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    Ancestry hands down cultures to their kids, not the name of the country they were born in. They may be American and thank heaven for it. We need more of us. But the Native American still to this day has a culture not practiced by any other American. Cleopatra was no African and I’m sure her culture was not African culture.
     
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    I can’t argue that and I agree
     
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    This was a documentary not a movie.
     
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    Technically she was African plus her culture was 100% African.

    ...but you sure can believe whatever you want, it's a free country, the internetz
     
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    don't ever quote me again soul nazi
     
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    Middle Eastern is a eurocentric definition, so technically speaking, Jesus was not middle Eastern. If we want to be accurate then he was African since he was born on the African continent.
     
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    Cleo was African with some Greek ancestry. Many Africans in ancient Lower Egypt had Greek blood due to the Greek conquest under Alexander the not so great and the heka kasut invasions earlier still. Similarly, many ancient Greeks had African blood. A girlfriend of mine that was Greek had afro hair but was what you would call white. I don't see any white American girls with afros, possibly because white Americans detest African culture. The Greeks were infatuated with African culture, so much so that their entire philosophy is plagiarised from Km.t.
     
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    Do not ever lie about me again and claim that I quoted you
     
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    Jerusalem was his place of birth and is not on the african continent

    He was a semitic Jew which is close to what we in modern times call middle eastern
     
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    She was born in egypt but exclusively greek

    Your claim about Americans detesting african culture is a lie which you cannot back up.

    There was no one philosophy of the greeks they had many which were all indigenous. None of it was plagiarised.

    You are posting false hoods.
     
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    There is no " african culture " there have literally been thousands of different cultures in Africa over the centuries.

    Egyptian culture which has evolved and changed massively over the cengturies was not exclusively african
     
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    Heh, this is Hotep Science!

    Egypt is on the African continent, therefore anyone and anything there is African. Africa= Sub-Saharan Black, therefore Cleopatra was Black.

    By the same convoluted math, Jan Smuts, an Afrikaner, is Black.

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    I suppose by the same Hotep Science, Elon Musk is also Black.

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    It is actually highly probable that she was “black”. Mind you this could also be just some clever marketing. Would you have even heard of this film were it not for this?
     
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    A docudrama is not a documentary if I read right. Documentary - a movie or a television or radio program that provides a factual record or report

    Docudrama - a dramatized television movie based on real events. - A fictional movie or TV show that's closely based on a true story can be called a docudrama. All The President's Men is a docudrama about the Watergate scandal. The term docudrama was first used in American English during the 1950s, from documentary and drama.


    In other words the docudrama may be based on something that actual happened, but isn’t factual. This may be based on Cleopatra as she existed. But Cleopatra can do anything she didn’t do in real life or be of any color when she wasn’t. Big difference between a documentary which is factual based and a docudrama which only take an event out of history and then adds and deletes to make it more exciting.
     
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    they're afrikkkaners, not africans.
     
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    Middle East is a eurocentric term, therefore invalid. Also, Jerusalem is on the African continent. Jews are an afro Asiatic ppl. Note the Afro term? Yeh, you know what that means. That little factoid crushes the soul of white supremacists
     
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    Is there a parrot in here?
     
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    But Cleopatra is Black because she was in ....wait for it...Africa?

    Hahahaha!

    The funniest Hoteps are the white ones!
     
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    the definition stands regardless, and doesn't change what I said
     
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    Maybe you should let them know so they can start calling themselves American instead of a hyphenated American?
     
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    It is a valid term. Eurocentricism is valid

    Jerusalem is Not on the african continent.

    Jews are not afro asiatic

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