Why some Egyptians are fuming over Netflix's Black Cleopatra

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  1. Joe knows

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    Whatever that is suppose to mean….
     
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    I don’t need to write out my posts exactly as you see fit, go preach to someone else. I clearly made my case and waited for someone like you to come along and prove my point of double standards. Good on you
     
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    It means, no Africans have conquered that region because it is Africa and Africans have always lived there. You can't conquer yourself. It's pretty simple logic.
     
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    Those areas are not African its middle eastern
     
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    Africa is part of the "middle East".
     
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    It could be said that Europe is part of the Middle East.
     
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    Not being African doesn't exclude the color black.
    And others have said she had mix ethnicities.
    So, black as well as any color is a possibility.

    And in the end, who really cares? Except for people who don't like certain colors.
     
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    Since perhaps 70% of forum members don't like the color black, that would be highly unlikely.
     
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    it could even be said that The Middle East is part of Asia. My point is that no southern country of the Middle East has ever conquered by an African country. Never.
     
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    The people in the article apparently care. Maybe you should read it.
     
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    There are three other matters worthy of consideration. One is that Cleopatra was the only ruler of her dynasty who knew, in addition to her native Greek, the Egyptian language. This suggests close association with an Egyptian speaker, perhaps her mother. Secondly, Cleopatra’s daughter, who became queen of Mauretania (and was mixed ethnically herself, as her father was Roman), honored the Egyptian religious elite at her far-off capital of Mauretanian Caesarea (in modern Algeria). This makes sense if they were part of her ancestral family. And third – especially relevant in demolishing any suggestion that Cleopatra had black African blood – the representations of her in Greek and Roman art and coins do not show anything other than traditional Mediterranean ethnicity, although artists were perfectly capable of showing other ethnic groups.
    Cleopatra’s true racial background (and does it really matter?) | OUPblog

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    The above paragraph is several paragraphs down.
     
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    It could be said that Iceland is part of the "middle East" since the term middle East is a reference point to the person who coined the phrase, in this case it was Greenwich in South England that created the term middle East, since it is east of Greenwich and central. All in all its a eurocentric definition that idont personally use. Arabs don't call themselves middle Eastern. In an Arabs POV he is central and everyone else is east, west, north and south of him.
     
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    Why? I don't know them and if they are upset, that's on them. Maybe they have a reason or maybe they don't.
    Nothing to really worry about from here.

    If one has a picture/painting/scribe on a wall somewhere of her, that might give a clue.
    But again, 2000 yrs later, not really relevant.

    The people in the article didn't start the thread, did they?
     
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    Zahi Hawass is an Arab nationalist. Are you aligned with his movement. He prolly think Israel should be pushed into the sea and that the Holocaust is fake.
     
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    Also look at how paintings of Jesus changed over time to now which has him as a pale face blue eyed scandanavian. Same happened with Cleo, her image has been falsified by whites in order to whitewash historical African figures out of history in order to claim rights over ancient lands and relics.

    Greed. Never underestimate the Europeans greed.
     
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    Of course it has been. Nimrod BUILT IRAQ from dust. Nimrod was an Egyptian who conquered Iraq.
     
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    Stay on topic. This is not about Zahi or his ideology
     
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    Egypt is part of the Middle East.
     
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    No one here is claiming Jesus to be white. Being that cleopatra was Greek it’s far more likely she is white than black.
     
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    Zahi is the spokesperson for Egyptian authorities on this very "controversy"
     
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    Egypt is in Africa.
     
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    White society as a whole claims Jesus was white.

    Be that man who is disagreeable!

    Make a topic denouncing this white ideology
     
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    Egypt is part of the Middle East. Their skin tone is also not predominantly black.
     
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    Be that man who is disagreeable? I’m not saying he’s white. He dang sure wasn’t black either
     
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    Egypt is in Africa. Which makes your original point that no African nation has conquered Arabia, false.
     
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