Why would anyone trust Trump?

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  1. Borat

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    Repeating the same out of context nonsense in 10 posts in a row is trolling. Trolling is generally speaking your MO
     
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    Never heard him say that but did hear Clinton say she was going to put coal miners out of jobs and shut down the coal companies, huge negative impact on that industry and associated jobs , not to mention the trickle down economic effect to the surrounding community and their businesses and jobs. The trickle down Economic theory works both ways, duh.
     
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    a guy who thinks American workes are paid "too much" and that we have to keep wages low.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-wages-are-too-high-2015-11

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/12/politics/donald-trump-explains-wages-too-high-comment/


    ...real champion for the Middle Class
     
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    Clinton is loved by bigots, misandrists, haters, malcontents, and other folks who are just pissed off and want to blame "those guys". Works both ways I'm afraid.
     
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    Trump thinks American workers are paid too much and we need to keep wages low.

    real hero.

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    still waiting for that evidence
     
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    This is the problem with mass immigration...

    [video=youtube;LPjzfGChGlE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE[/video]
     
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  9. Ronstar

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    you made a claim

    either support it with evidence or retract it.

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    immigrants are balls of gum?
     
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    Trump kicked ass because enough people finally understood the GOP has no intention ever representing the best interests and common good of the people who work for their living. So, if you appear to be different from the establishment GOP, and talk like you will represent people, you will know why trump is where he is today. And if not for a rigged democratic primary system, sanders would be running against trump, for he too says he will represent the people after decades of neither party representing anyone economically, but the elites.

    We have two parties with one head. A neoliberal oligarchy enabling head. And the people are finally understanding the truth of the matter. The only hold outs are Clinton supporters and trump haters in the GOP. But the village idiots seldom can see the truth, and these people will go to their graves being basic village idiots. No pill to fix stupid. Well, a slug to the head fixes it right quick, but murder is a crime and should not ever be used.
     
  11. Borat

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    The [Saudi] kingdom gave between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation between the time the foundation was created through 2014, and some portion of the funds was contributed in 2014

    The Sultanate of Oman gave the foundation between $1 million and $5 million through 2014, including contributions given in 2014

    Four days before Clinton announced her run, Politico reported that the foundation was accepting at least $1 million from a Moroccan government-owned company

    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...ry-clinton-took-money-kings-four-countries-go
     
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    the Clinton Foundation takes donations from MANY groups and persons, foreign and domestic.

    now, where's your evidence for this claim?

    "Hillary is supported by every radical islamic , violent anarchist and marxist, racist BLM, the Black Panthers and la Raza scum."
     
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    The Clinton Foundation's business relationship with 20 foreign governments raises real questions about her judgment

    Among all the rivers of money that have flowed to the Clinton family, one seems to raise the biggest national security questions of all: the stream of cash that came from 20 foreign governments who relied on weapons export approvals from Hillary Clinton’s State Department.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/31/the_cash_donations_hillary_simply_has_no_answer_for_partner/
     
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    this is your problem in a nutshell. your opinions are based on the cover of the book because you are too lazy to inspect the contents.
     
  15. Ronstar

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    where's your evidence for this claim?

    ""Hillary is supported by every radical islamic , violent anarchist and marxist, racist BLM, the Black Panthers and la Raza scum."
     
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    The claim is self evident, they are not Trump/GOP voters. Do you suggest they will vote straight republican ticket? :D
     
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    The Clinton Foundation has received the following large donations over its lifetime:

    The foundation has reported the following in cumulative lifetime giving through September 2015.[84]

    Greater than $25 million[edit]

    Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
    Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (Canada) (see Frank Giustra)
    Fred Eychaner and Alphawood Foundation
    Frank Giustra, The Radcliffe Foundation
    Nationale Postcode Loterij
    The Children's Investment Fund Foundation
    UNITAID

    $10,000,001 to $25 million[edit]

    AUSAID
    Stephen L. Bing
    Commonwealth of Australia
    Presidential Commission on HIV/AIDS (COPRESIDA) of the Government of the Dominican Republic
    Tom Golisano
    Government of Norway
    Pritzker Family Foundation (also known as J.B. and M.K. Pritzker Family Foundation)
    Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
    Denis J. O'Brien and Digicel
    Cheryl and Haim Saban & The Saban Family Foundation
    Susie Tompkins Buell Fund of the Marin Community Foundation
    The Elma Foundation
    The Hunter Foundation
    The Rockefeller Foundation
    The Swedish Postcode Lottery
    The Victor Pinchuk Foundation
    Theodore W. Waitt

    $5,000,001 to $10 million[edit]

    S. Daniel Abraham
    Mohammed Hussein Al Amoudi
    C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group, Inc.
    Elton John Aids Foundation
    Government of the Netherlands
    Irish Aid
    John D. MacKay
    Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation (NORAD)
    OCP Corporation
    Michael Schumacher
    State of Kuwait
    The Clinton Family Foundation
    The Coca-Cola Company
    The Wasserman Foundation
    Tracfone Wireless, Inc.

    $1,000,001 to $5 million[edit]

    100 Women in Hedgefunds
    Absolute Return for Kids (ARK)
    Jay Alix
    Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa
    Nasser Al-Rashid
    American Federation of Teachers
    Angelopoulos Foundation
    Gianna Angelopoulos
    Anheuser-Busch Foundation
    Smith and Elizabeth Bagley
    Barclays Capital
    Barclays plc
    Mary Bing and Doug Ellis
    Bloomberg Philanthropies
    Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina
    Richard Blum and Blum Family Foundation
    BMU ((German) Federal Ministry for the Environment)
    Booz Allen Hamilton
    Carlos Bremer
    Richard Caring
    Gilbert R. Chagoury
    Cheniere Energy, Inc.
    Christy and John Mack Foundation
    Cisco
    Gustavo Cisneros & Venevision
    Citi Foundation
    Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund
    Stephen J. Cloobeck
    Roy E. Cockrum
    Victor P. Dahdaleh & The Victor Phillip Dahdaleh Charitable Foundation
    Vivid Entertainment
    Delos Living
    Robert Disbrow
    Dubai Foundation
    Duke Energy Corporation
    EKTA Foundation
    Entergy
    Exxonmobil
    Issam M. Fares
    Raj Fernando
    Fidelity Charitable Gift Fund
    Joseph T. Ford
    Wallace W. Fowler
    Friends of Saudi Arabia
    Fundación Telmex
    Mala Gaonkar Haarman
    GEMS Education
    General Electric
    Ariadne Getty
    GIZ - Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit
    Vinod Gupta
    Hewlett-Packard Company
    HSBC Holdings
    Hult International Business School
    Humana Inc.
    ICAP Services North America
    Inmobiliaria Carso, S.A. De C.V.
    Inter-American Development Bank
    Sanela D. Jenkins
    Robert L. Johnson
    Walid Juffali
    Dave Katragadda
    Kessler Family Foundation
    Michael and Jena King
    Laureate International Universities
    Jonathan and Jeannie Lavine, Trustees of the Crimson Lion Foundation
    Lukas Lundin
    MAC AIDS Fund
    Masimo Foundation
    Microsoft
    Lakshmi N. Mittal
    Monsanto Company
    James R. Murdoch
    Newsmax Media, Inc.
    NRG Energy, Inc.
    OAS S.A.
    Open Society Institute
    Jonathan M. Orszag
    Peter G. Peterson Foundation
    Pfizer Inc
    PGA Tour, Inc.
    Presidential Inaugural Committee
    Princess Diana Memorial Fund
    Procter & Gamble
    Stewart Rahr
    Paul D. Reynolds
    Rilin Enterprises
    Robertson Foundation
    Salida Capital Foundation
    Donald L. Saunders
    Joachim Schoss
    Bernard L. Schwartz
    Sean N. Parker Foundation
    Walter H. Shorenstein
    Silicon Valley Community Foundation
    Arnold H. Simon
    Bren and Melvin Simon
    Amar Singh
    Michael Smurfit
    Harold Snyder
    Sol Goldman Charitable Trust
    Steven Spielberg
    Standard Chartered Bank
    Starkey Hearing Foundation
    Starkey Hearing Technologies, Inc.
    State of Qatar
    Sterling Stamos Capital Management, LP
    Suzlon Energy Ltd.
    Swedish Postcode Foundation
    Swiss Reinsurance Company
    T.G. Holdings
    Nima Taghavi
    Tenet Healthcare Corporation
    The Annenberg Foundation
    The Boeing Company
    The Coca-Cola Foundation
    The Dow Chemical Company
    The Eli and Edythe Broad Foundation
    The ERANDA Foundation
    The Ford Foundation
    The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.
    The Government of Brunei Darussalam
    The Howard Gilman Foundation
    The James R. Greenbaum, Jr. Family Foundation
    The Marc Haas Foundation
    The New York Community Trust
    The Roy and Christine Sturgis Charitable & Educational Trust
    The Sherwood Foundation
    The Sidney E. Frank Foundation
    The Streisand Foundation
    The Sultanate of Oman
    The Walmart Foundation
    The Zayed Family
    Thomson Reuters
    Toyota Motor North America, Inc.
    U.S. Green Building Council
    United Arab Emirates
    University of Southern California
    Verein Aids Life
    Walton Family Foundation, Inc.
    Gerardo Werthein
    Frank White
    Worldwide Support for Development
    Wyss Charitable Endowment
    Yahoo! Inc.
    YPY Holding Limited

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    so its a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie with no evidence.
     
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    But these are the ones that are raising the eyebrows and makes people question her judgment, loyalty to her country and corruption

    The Clinton Foundation's business relationship with 20 foreign governments raises real questions about her judgment

    Among all the rivers of money that have flowed to the Clinton family, one seems to raise the biggest national security questions of all: the stream of cash that came from 20 foreign governments who relied on weapons export approvals from Hillary Clinton’s State Department.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/31/the_cash_donations_hillary_simply_has_no_answer_for_partner/

    PS lest we forget that president-wanna be Clinton will indefinitely be in the pockets of all these special interests

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    Some things in life are self-evident. This is one of them
    Hillary is supported by every radical islamic , violent anarchist and marxist, racist BLM, the Black Panthers and la Raza scum
     
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    Actually, that is what some want us to believe, when the real reason trump has such support is something that also got sanders great support. It is the total lack of working americans being represented by either party. Both parties are now owned by the elites, and according to the evidence presented in the Princeton Study no longer represent the economic interests and the common good of the majority in this nation. It isn't a coincidence that both sanders and trump talk about these treasonous free trade agreements hurting the hell out of americans, so the banking cabal and MNCs can max out only their income and wealth.

    Why anyone would want to make this about racism or the hatred of illegals or muslims shows a disconnect from reality. Propaganda always uses demonization, so when you see people using that, you can spot the liars.
     
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    no, its a baseless lie.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree. You may think that the radical islamic , violent anarchist and marxist, racist BLM, the Black Panthers and la Raza scum will vote for Trump in droves but I am not convinced and to me they are core liberal constituency.
     
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    Why would anyone trust Clinton? She has already proved she can distort the facts, make bad decisions affecting lives, commit fraud and standby while her staff take the heat for actions. She definitely won't help our economy, stating she will continue obamas failed programs. Obama economic policy failed, increasing our national debt more than any president in our past. Maybe it wouldnt have been a bad thing if it had improved the economy added jobs, reduced the number of people on welfare and improved healthcare while lowering the cost and deductibles, but , it did not and was basically a waste of our money
     
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    you have no evidence that they support Hillary.

    its just your very dishonest and baseless attack.

    next you'll say that ISIS and Al Qaeda support Hillary cause she is a crypto-Muslim
     
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    I don't know about ISIS and Al Qaeda and they are irrelevant as they don't vote. The voting patterns of American anarchists, Marxists, black and Mexican racists, Islamic fundamentalists are quite well known - they are all democratic voters.
     
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    And unfortunately she may be the alternative to Trump. Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution forbids office holders from accepting anything of value from a foreign state, yet hubby Bill collected a cool $million from the Abu Dhabi government while Hillary was secretary of state.

    Although the fee was paid to Bill, Hillary equally benefited from the payment, in effect, she accepted money from a foreign state.

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

    ~ Section 9, US Constitution

    The Wall Street Journal reports that Abu Dhabi benefited from actions by Hillary’s State Department during the time of the payments.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/speaking-fees-meet-politics-for-clintons-1451504098
     

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