Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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  1. Equality

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    >m = >pE

    By building a wall , you are adding mass to the area , space-time energy will curve towards this mass . The space-time energy inflow will be isotropic , E=mc³ .


    However , you will not notice this because it will always measure N , which is neutral charge, because N*N=N

    You may / will experience more earthquake action because of the energy density increase in the area .
     
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    And as for "going backwards in time instead of moving forward" and "Persecution?"
     
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    Repeating the Berlin wall is going backwards in time . It is ironic North Korea recently became less divided with South Korea and the world , we pulled down the Berlin wall , BUT ! America now wants to build a wall . As for persecution , consider the Mexicans in being like the Jews and we all know that terrible story .
     
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    Berlin wall was between two halves of the SAME country! And are you saying that the wall PRODUCED persecution against the Jews?
     
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    The Berlin wall was built later than the wars . The Berlin wall was an example of a daft idea , it got built then took back down again . My persecution example and comparison of the Jews is based on humanity reasons , the Jewish people were stereotyped and persecuted by the Nazi state and to me it now seems that this is happening to the Mexicans . There is many innocents involved and the correct move is not a wall , it is an invasion to take control and deal with the problem once and for all . They will just use drones to fly dope etc over the wall , they will sail around the wall at sea , they will air drop things in , the wall is going to be like a chocolate fire guard , useless .


    Brushing dirt under a rug is only hiding the dirt and not dealing with it !
     
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    Because Mexicans are being persecuted by the US state? Surely you can't be serious.

    And who will be on the other side of the wall to collect it?

    Why are you pretending that the US Coastguard and RADAR doesn't exist?

    Yeah, because US airspace is just that insecure! :roflol: Any stupid Mexican that tries this would risk getting engaged by an F-18! :roflol:
     
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    Innocents asking and looking for America for help are being persecuted . These people are your neighbors , South America . It is not as if they are not Americans , they are Americans and innocents .
    These people look up to Middle America like a big brother , they come for your help with hope and respect for such a great nation . But ! You are turning your backs on them .


    Why not contact the Mexican president and help him sort his chit out ?

    I'm English and I use to see America as being great , I'm not too sure anymore .


    P.s Mexico is also an escape route in case of catastrophe . You could be trapping yourselves in if yellow stone goes up .
     
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    Sorry, are you talking about asylum seekers?
     
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    You could look at it in the sense of asylum seekers or you could look at in a sense of safety seekers , in you we trust !

    They're not running away from nothing , they mostly want to protect their families , it is not a good thing to just ignore this . By building a wall America is saying to helpless people , ''this is now your prison'' .
     
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    Hope you are right, and he has supported a concrete wall or steel slats.
     
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    Of course, if the original intention was to go in that way, and they will find another way, yes?
     
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    They will find another way, whether it is a gap, an airplane, around, etc. They don't do much unless they "THINK" their chances are good. A wall will have an effect, but so will other methods.
     
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    It's the very reason we need a 30ft Concrete wall.
     
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    So you think that they should just be able to enter whenever they please?
     
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    Plane into a port of entry?

    Well this we agree on.
     
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    Trump claimed women were gagged with tape. Then Border Patrol tried to find some evidence.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/27/18198729/women-duct-tape-trump-truck-border

    "The email, shown to Vox by a source within Border Patrol, was sent as a “request for information” by an assistant Border Patrol chief, apparently on behalf of the office of Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Kevin McAleenan (referred to internally as “C-1”). It asked agents to reply within less than two hours with “any information (in any format)” regarding claims of tape-gagged women — and even linked to the Post article “for further info.”

    Vox’s source indicated that they and others in their sector hadn’t heard anything that would back up Trump’s claims, but wasn’t sure if agents in other sectors had provided information. However, no one from the Trump administration has come forward to offer evidence for the claim, either before or after the internal Border Patrol email was sent."
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    "Like so many of his claims, Trump’s details appear to fictional. The Washington Post reported, “[H]uman-trafficking experts and advocates for immigrant women have said they are perplexed by this increasingly repeated story in Trump’s repertoire – and are at a loss for where he got his information. It was not from them, they say; in fact, they have no idea what he is talking about.”

    Ashley Huebner, associate director of legal services at the National Immigrant Justice Center, told the Post, “I think his statements are completely divorced from reality. That’s not a fact pattern that we see.”

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/its-not-too-late-trump-learn-what-human-trafficking
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    As it turns out, the things Don claimed are happening occur in the new Vicario movie. But not in reality.
     
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    A small plane or a car into a port of entry, unless we provide many more border patrol people in those ports. Even then some will get in.
    They come by boat also. I once noticed an empty go-fast boat off the coast of Florida and also some migrants on the beach at another time.
     
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    Not at all , I think you should deal with the problem instead of hiding it behind a wall .
     
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    I have asked Trump's fans a question on several threads, but they refuse to answer. They don't want to contemplate the future results of what they are saying today.

    The immediate fear is, if the President gets his way on this issue, he and Presidents that follow will use the same maneuver, shut down the government until they get what they want.

    Keep in mind, the Republican Congress was willing to pass a CR in December. Then Trump changed his mind and we got the long government shutdown. The Democratic bill this week received more votes in the Republican Senate then Trump's bill. Six Republican Senators defected to the Democrats. The President is alone on this one.

    So, let me ask Trump's pals a question. Do you want future Democratic Presidents to have the authority created by Trump's precedence to shut down the government when they don't get what they want from a Republican legislature?

    Does any Trump fan care to answer that question?
     
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    Cite how many fewer people will enter the US and stay illegally due to Trump's wall increment.
     
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    Why was the Berlin Wall built?
     
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    I cite gravity and logic. And I'll see your question with one of my own: Cite how many people enter the US illegally by way of border entry points.
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/a-look-back-at-every-government-shutdown-in-us-history

     
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    58% of illegals come in legally and overstay their visa. There is only one way to end this GOP scam wedge issue. The 2010 democratic comprehensive immigration bill started out with a national ID card to end illegal immigration, but of course the GOP fear-mongers that, calling Democrats Communists and all kinds of conspiracy theories, as they have been doing forever. The wall is stupid, won't do a damn thing,and would cause all kinds of problems for the farmers along the border and animal migrations... The lengths the GOP will go to 2 satisfy their ridiculous propaganda machine and their brainwashed doops.
     
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    "We"? So, are you East German, Russian, or Hungarian? If none of the above then "you" didn't remove a single brick of it.
    What is your problem with that? The Berlin wall was extremely effective so if the Americans want to build a wall, let them be.

    So you are of the notion that building a wall to stem the movement of Mexicans (Latin American citizens) entering the U.S. illegally is on par with the persecution of the Jews in Nazi-held territory? :laughing:
     

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