Will God welcome Gays into the Kingdom of Heaven

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  1. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I attended catholic schools for 9 years. I was baptized, ate the bread and drank the wine that turned into Jesus, went through the stations of the cross, had my dick whittled, went through confession, I even would have been confirmed except by that time I actually had a choice in whether or not I did any of these things. I went to my sisters confirmations, not sure why one of them did that but the other is hard core christ I guess. Anyway thought you'd be interested in more of that story. I've heard yours as well.

    http://www.thesegladtidings.com/Creation.html

    I wouldn't be surprised if there's a third story somewhere out there as well. Lots of stories, lots of inconsistency. That and the whole actually thinking about religion is what turned me away from it. If others want to believe that's fine, and I respect that. However I cannot respect organized religion. If God is real and the Bible is true then I think organized religion will do a better job of sending its constituents to hell than anything else.

    Now if they could only make the sport itself interesting!
     
  2. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Actually with over 10,700 manuscripts now available an autograph emerges, a product that emerges from demonstrable consensus between the many manuscripts. The scriptures regarding homosexuality are in no way ambiguous. The many translations of the scripture are more a matter of style of wording rather than disagreements in meaning. The same idea is expressed through slightly different wording as seen here:

    Leviticus 18:22
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

    Leviticus 18:22
    American Standard Version (ASV)
    22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Amplified Bible (AMP)
    22You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Darby Translation (DARBY)
    22And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
    22 You are not to sleep with a man as with a woman; (A) it is detestable.

    Leviticus 18:22
    King James Version (KJV)
    22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
    22Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.

    Leviticus 18:22
    New International Version (NIV)
    22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
    22`And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it [is].


    And so the problem isn't in knowing what the Bible says, the problem is accepting it. You only deceive yourself by pretending the Bible doesn't condemn the act of homosexuality.
     
  3. Silence_Dogood

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    God doesn't exist, and there's no such thing as Heaven, except if you create it for yourself here on earth.
     
  4. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Circumcision is not part of being Catholic. The Church did away with circumcision as a requirement in the 1st century.

    In spite of being shown the correct path, everyone has to make the decision for themselves eventually. You clearly decided to reject your Catholic upbringing.

    Oops! The Bible is a product of organized religion. In fact, Christianity wouldn't have survived until today without a definable structure, doctrine, and hierarchy. Only organized Christianity has the means with which to send missionaries out and build schools, hospitals, libraries, etc in the far reaches of the globe. If it weren't for organized Christianity the Muslims would rule the world and Western civilization with its liberal values founded in Christianity would have died and this world would just plain SUCK!

    You don't want to live in a world that didn't benefit from organized Christianity.
     
  5. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    You're on permanent ignore. Buh bye!

    Poof!

    All atheists are instantly and permanently ignored.
     
  6. Silence_Dogood

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    Haha, great strategy:
    :ignore: "I can't hear you!"

    Explain how suffering via natural disasters is compatible with an omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent 'God', please, if you wish to have an intelligent conversation.
     
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    My gay friend who knows God told me this: Only God shall create life, the ultimate creator. and God is angry that straight people are immitating Gods creation.
     
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    Will The Grand Poobah of Hoosmalazeloh except gays into his place of ultimate serenity? Who knows? I guess we first have to explain and ascertain what the credentials someone must have to enter these places and if they actually exist.
     
  9. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Oops! Somebody else fell into Robodoon's clever little trap.

    Ignored. Permanently.

    Poof!

    I love it when the God haters rush to identify themselves.
     
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    I went to the OP's profile, looked at the other threads he's started, and no doubt, he's a global warming denialist.

    Why is it that people who have certain bull(*)(*)(*)(*) views, also tend to have characteristic bull(*)(*)(*)(*) views on other subjects?
     
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    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    Is that what that was....

    I tried this with my cat... :ignore:

    You stole my line :(

    Cheese n Rice.... Don't you think you're bein a bit hard on these heathens?
     
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    Ha ha! You think Robodoon is hiding the fact that he doesn't buy the global warming scam for a single second? Neither do I. Neither do hundreds of scientists that are abandoning the global warming gimmick faster than Rosie O'donnel abandons a diet. I'm just laughing at all these ***** that deny the existence of God but are so certain that Manbearpig exists.

    Talk about gullible!

    [​IMG]
     
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    umm..what is manbearpig? :roll:
     
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    I'll just disregard your assessment since your response didn't leave enough time for you to actually read the thread and judge it lame. And I don't give up easy....I put up with you, don't I?
     
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    Says you...

    how's the :ignore: going?

    Just another lowly heathen :(
     
  19. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    St. Michael, defend them!

    I don't believe in anything. God should give us more than 2000 year old stories. (*)(*)(*)(*), we can't even believe 80% of the stories we're told today!

    Sorry guys, we're all stardust.
     
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    Spoken like a true atheist;)
     
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    You gotta cheerleader Mike :mrgreen:

    Then you believe in not believing...

    Tellin me. You think Jesus woulda came back in the 50s or something so we could watch him on the History Channel.

    and that stardust breaks all the way down to 1 basic energy that is anything and everything.
     
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    Although the bible does say being gay is an offense punishable by stoning... of course 2 lines after that it also says adultery is a stoning offense and a half a page above it it says any child who raises voice against his parents shall be put to death.

    I love it when Christians cherry pick bits and pieces of the bible and then can never cone up with a response when i bring up what else is in Leviticus.

    They just use it as a tool to make themselves think that being a bigot is okay.
     
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    I guess you and the ancient Greeks are at odds.

    How odd, one can only imagine.
     
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    Gays are fine to go to heaven. The only people God won't allow past the gate are the selfish bastards that begrudge their fellow man and woman access to health care.

    God is the Number One Endorser of Universal Health Care. Won't you mean-sprited guys be shocked when God doesn't let you in the door for pissing on your fellow man and woman? You dump on people for being poor, for being lazy... for not being able to afford health care...

    God will judge you unkindly the way you pisss on your fellow man and woman. Won't be a pretty sight to watch.

    There's still time to repent...
     
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