Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

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  1. Greatest I am

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    Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

    I see more than one Jesus speaking through the bible. The good Jesus would likely condemn while the less moral and good Jesus that most follow might not. A number of his policies have been found wanting, --- in moral terms.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ

    Dogma says that Jesus ascended to heaven and his rightful place as judge of the universe at Yahweh’s right hand. The pure hand says tradition.

    Would Jesus dethrone Yahweh for the insane genocidal example he shows for a god, or would Jesus somehow justify what Yahweh, and himself to Trinitarians, did?

    Would Jesus say that genocide was good?

    Heaven forbid.

    Condemn or Condone?

    I say Jesus would condemn Yahweh.

    What say you my moral friends?



    Regards
    DL
     
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    To my thinking the verdict is that G-d allowed our ancestors great freedom.... they fell into sin.....
    so did I..... but G-d is simply teaching us by experience........ lessons of eternal value.


    This video after after the eleven minute and thirty second mark goes into the four doors
    that we humans open...... which open the doors to the dark forces that
    Howard Storm met during the first part of his at first negative.... .and later very positive near death experience.....

    DL.... .I believe that you need to really think about number 3 and 4. So do I......
    I feel that I opened these up somewhat
    lately.... and I want to close them again and fast!

    1. Sexual sin
    2. Occult sin
    3. Hatred
    4. Anger


    DL... you have anger against G-d..... I have been there and done that too!

    It is dangerous..... and Shalom / peace of mind is possible.......
    Forgive Adam and Eve..... I would even forgive Satan... . because maybe he is
    trying to humble us... and destroy our pride..... we cannot know the full fledged motives of others???????

    John 10:10

    "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

    Yes..... Satan kills, steals and destroys... but perhaps the motive is to
    force us to repentance.... and get us to the place where the restoration of all things invades even his kingdom of the extreme lost?!



    G-d has simply been permitting us to open up those doors........
    so that we become humble.... and cry out to G-d for help with
    closing those doors.......

    Once we learn to close those doors to the dark side... the world will become utopian.......
    by the year 2185.... and then humanity will be ready for higher and higher levels of heaven / paradise / love, truth, light!


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a01
    Howard found out what those beings were like.......
    and all of us here in four dimensional space - time can clue to this as well..... and the answer is:

     
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    I always wondered why Yahweh didn't use a condom with Mary and how many more of his offspring ran the face of the Earth?
     
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    If the ultimate plan is eventual universal salvation for all the lost.......
    then all the horror and misery and suffering does make sense......... or will make sense eventually.......

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a04h
    If you read chapter 3... this explains eventual universal salvation brilliantly:

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
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    Or.... could it be that a utopian earth.... with physical humans......
    who are taught all the correct things form birth.... is planned... and is coming......

    After the 35 minute mark.... . prepare to be surprised.... The implications of that
    question to Sharon is huge.....



    Isaiah 9:7

    "Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."

    My suggestion is repent of our anger and hatred and bitterness.........
    I had to... .before I could find Shalom..........

    .. .and I still struggle with this......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-christian-gospel-be-much-worse-news.530504/


    But this is only the scary first part of the story.......
    there is a truly happy ending............... but we must learn... and change.....
    and even pray and ask for help from G-d.......
    and guidance to deeper and deeper levels of truth.

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html
     
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    Firstly, only fools will believe in the supernatural.

    Second, if you do not love enough to show your hate for all that would go against that which you love, then you do not know how to love.

    Thirdly, get your head out of your genocidal son murdering gods ass an look at the prick you promote as good for the first time.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Do you really think Jesus would ignore his own teachings?

    Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Magic sperm laugh at condoms.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Universal salvation is the right way to think in spiritual terms and that is why Gnostic Christians have tied equality of outcome to righteousness in god.

    In life and when we are forced to use the tools of evolution, universal love is impossible as you intentionally try to do harm with the lose you wish to inflict on the one you are competing against.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    But what about higher invisible dimensions of space and time?

    The higher the dimension...... the greater the level of light / truth and love.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html

    There is a whole page on that City of Light....

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/city-of-light.html
     
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    Yes...... an eleven year old was shown that "hell"
    was the refusal to move on to a higher level of understanding.....


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/children.html#a03
     
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    These have yet to be shown as real even as the math seems to work out for various numbers of these dimensions. They are not seen as supernatural at all.

    That is your delusion and you have nothing to back it up.

    Your NDE garbage is just that.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    They sure do seem to fit with simplified String Theory......

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    Does Theoretical Physics verify Near Death Experience Accounts?

     
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    I know the feelings, why two out of three of my wives claimed to not be able to have children, yet three were delivered..
     
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    You insult science and are not worth my time.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Stop marrying liars. LOL.

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    DL
     
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    According to the biblical fairy tale when Yeshua returns he will destroy the Earth's environment, kill all life, and blow up the planet. He's not a nice guy.
     
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    Probably a bloody Catholic.
     
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    I stopped marry non-liars also.
     
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    There ya go again, holding God to some human moral standard as you see it. Nice trick but it only works on the weak minded.

    God is not human so cannot he held to the same moral standard as humans. It is the same within our existence. Different species are held to different moral standards.
     
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    So you really think that Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies, is the head God of the entire universe that has over 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe.
     
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    God is God.
     
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    War is the epitome of drama and we all love war too much.

    That is why Christianity chose a god of war and he, of course, must wage war to keep his people loving him by killing all those that Christians hate.

    Quite a sick religion that Christianity.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Why exactly do you think the two are separate entities?

    Perhaps you should study the Bible more before making such statements? The usual strict-literalist angle that Bible-bashers take is long worn itself out.
     

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