Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

By what specific process did "Christianity choose a god of war"? Are you suggesting Christianity existed before this "god of war" came along, and that these Christians went god-shopping and picked one you hate?

You're confusing Christian doctrine with Jewish law. The Law of the Old Testament was fulfilled by the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Christians don't practice the Law, never have and never did.

Actually you should be saying "keep his people loving him by killing all those that Jews hate."

But I am going to suspect you aren't willing to criticize Jews while you liberally bash Christians like this.

Also, by what justifiable account do you blanket-bash Christianity when you're expressing nothing except severe Biblical illiteracy on this thread?

Are there other religions which you single out for bashing?

 

That's lovely, however you really should whip up better sources than "BigThink" and "PBS" to defend an argument against a faith you've clearly never studied while you insult the intelligence of others.

 

I know the bible better than most.

Even if I bought into your stupid trinity concept, gibberish to any thinker, Jesus would still be able to judge his own actions as to being good or evil would he not?

Regards
DL

 

No, you clearly do not. Indeed, your sources are just about everything outside of it. What you personally think is rational isn't even the topic here.

And what is with your hostility here?

 

Prove your ridiculous resurrection fantasy, which is contradicted or negated by the history within the bible that has Jesus saying that the end of days would happen in the apostles lifetime.

As to Jews, they are not stupid literalists of their myths.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Regards
DL

 

Not just here but wherever I go and I am hostile for many reasons and Christianity using their vile Inquisition against those of my ilk is just the tip of the iceberg.

Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/



Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

The question to you is why you are not hostile to such evil ideologies?

Do you have a corrupted moral sense and call evil good?

Regards
DL

 

By usurping the genocidal Jewish god Yahweh.

Regards
DL

 

The inquisition wasn't Biblical, nor was it ever claimed to be based on Biblical doctrine. You're confusing Biblical teaching with the deeds of individuals who claimed to be Christian. Why such conflation like that?

Judaism also had slaves, why did you omit them? You're attacking them not on account of your understanding of Biblical concepts you accurately can relate but rather that they don't conform to your New Leftist secular worldview. Islam is not Bibliclly-based but explicitly denies Biblical teachings, such as the crucifixion and resurrection.

That just further proves you don't understand the basics of the Bible.

A heretical sect specifically condemned in the early Church. Absolutely un-Christian:

"There is actually no such thing as Christian Gnosticism, because true Christianity and Gnosticism are mutually exclusive systems of belief. The principles of Gnosticism contradict what it means to be a Christian. Therefore, while some forms of Gnosticism may claim to be Christian, they are in fact decidedly non-Christian.

Gnosticism was perhaps the most dangerous heresy that threatened the early church during the first three centuries. Influenced by such philosophers as Plato, Gnosticism is based on two false premises. First, it espouses a dualism regarding spirit and matter. Gnostics assert that matter is inherently evil and spirit is good. As a result of this presupposition, Gnostics believe anything done in the body, even the grossest sin, has no meaning because real life exists in the spirit realm only." -- Source: Got Questions​

Your faith is clearly centered around your political and social views and not the result of earnest Biblical studies, therefore to call yourself a Christian of any stripe - even a heretical one - is odd.

I don't derive a sense of evil and good from New Left social activist talking points or unbliblical Gnostic concepts, and neither would any Christian, of any stripe. You can't claim to be a Christian and than bash the Bible. It doesn't work that way.

 

Proof?

 

They're not myths but rather allegories.

 

LOL.

If you did not know that Yahweh was a Jewish god, I cannot help you. If you do not know that the O.T. is basically a copy of the Torah, I cannot help you.

Give me proof that your god exists.

Regards
DL

 

I agree. Christianity was not invented to deny all other religions their freedom of religion and thought.

It became corrupt and remains so to this day.

Regards
DL

 

You're making a wide array of claims but are offering zero proofs. When I'm asking for evidence, I mean BIBLICAL evidence. I'm not asking you to re-word your original claim.

 

Proof is in your bible.

I speak from biblical accounts that show Yahweh to be a genocidal son murdering prick of a god.

You use the bible as proof of god while I just judge your god the right way while you call that evil prick good.

You show your corrupted morals if you cannot justify genocide and the murder of children and babies.

Regards
DL

 

Vaguely pointing at a Bible isn't an argument. I am asking for specifics, not a generalized claim. Instead of defending your claims with primary sources, you repeat vague claims, throw in a pepper of insult, and add more vague claims and insults.

I have zero interest in your New Left moral objections.

And you're also shoving arguments into my mouth in lieu of framing a defensible argument of your own.

 

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You are correct that pointing at the bible is not an argument. It is my critique of Yahweh as given in scripture, as a vile genocidal prick, and you offer no argument against me.

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Regards
DL

 

I don't care that you think my moral sense is corrupted based on your invoking false straw man arguments about my religious beliefs based on my unwillingness to allow you to dictate my values.

If you can't specify the plethora of arguments you've made about the Bible and the supposed truthfulness of your Gnostic views, why bother trying to advocate them at all? You clearly cannot. You are even unable to draw a distinction between myth and allegory.

You are not the center of the universe, and you need to do something about your anger problem. I shouldn't have to cull insults out of your posts.

 

I know that you do not care if your moral sense has been corrupted. Your choice of a genocidal son murdering prick says it all.

See ya; would not want to be ya.

Regards
DL

 

There are thousands ofGods, each with its own unique name and attributes = http://www.graveyardofthegods.org/deadgods/listofgods.html. There are several Gods in the Bible. One of them goes by the name of Yahweh = the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies. Another God is Yeshua, aka as "Jesus" since 1632. The "Jesus" character is a complete fake. A couple of con men pulled that name out of their butts.

 

My theory, based upon evidence, is that the Bible was written after the Koran in the 680s=690s to counteract the Koran written in the 640s. The Christians needed their own holy book since they didn't have one before then. So they included certain things to counteract the teachings of the Koran, which had been written from oral Jewish and Christian stories. Both books demand complete obedience and loyalty to the Boss.

 

The Bible does not teach morality. It teaches complete obedience and loyalty to the Boss. You couldn't list 12 decent moral lessons from the Bible if your life depended on it.

 

Does that make sense? Surely 'usurping the genocidal Jewish God Yahweh' was a good idea. Not that I believe
in it anyway. Just as I don't accept 'Christian' or any other Gnosticism. That goes back further than Christianity to Platonic, Zoroastrian and other philosophies.

 

Congratulations!

You've never studied the Bible but opine on it anyway.

 

OK, list 12 decent moral things from the Bible that are not immediately counteracted by evil things. Don't kill? Then a second later it's kill everyone who doesn't believe in your fairy tale. Honor your parents? A nanosecond later its you must hate them and leave them to follow after a crazy person.

So get busy with your list.

 

Oh I see, I'm supposed to conform to a standard subjectively set by YOU as opposed to you defending your own argument?

You're not even quoting the Bible accurately here - you're citing a single mistranslated verse and then acting like killing for any reason is wrong when obviously it is not. The death penalty is a very valid concept.

For some reason you're also assuming the Old Testament is literal and not allegorical. That's your mistake.