Would the world be a better place without America?

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  1. Mungo

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    and we invented the PC you are using it on
     
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    Europe started two world wars in less than 50 years that cost 100 million people their lives. The world would be far, far better off without THEM!
     
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    Europe gave the world everything good about it, like your system of government? Thank Europe, the language you speak? Europe again, all art, literature and music you enjoy? Born and bred in Europe
     
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    No. America is as HUMAN as any other nation. The world is what it is.
     
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    This is a trailer to a pretty fair and even handed investigative report which looks at your question.


    [video=youtube;Py4jVOJDwXU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py4jVOJDwXU[/video]

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    Someone has really done a number on you, son.
     
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    the world is what nations make it, America makes it a pretty bad place. Look at your treatment of Venezuela, a country that overwhelmingly elected through DEMOCRATIC means a leader, several times in a row, that you didn't like. You ostracised them, slandered them, tried to mount economic warfare against them and probably assassinated their DEMOCRATICALLY elected leader. All cause they had the temerity to elect a leader you didn't approve of.

    Newsflash for you, countries elect their own leaders based on who they want to lead their country, not who they think the USA will approve of. And what was his crime? To make the natural resources of Venezuela work for the people of Venezuela instead of private companies from America.

    You need to wake up to the harm your country does. Go and read about what sort of place Saudi Arabia is, and remember it is only like that because you militarily, diplomatically and economically support that regime.

    Why did you hate Cuba so much? Because they nationalised their own industries so that Cuban produce made money for the people of Cuba instead of private American companies. And they get a 50 year embargo for it!!!

    America is not a force for good in the world it is a nefarious bully
     
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    here is a list of the governments the USA has overthrown around the world. What gives America the right to decide what government another country has? Would you be happy if Peru or Australia decided it didn't like your government and changed it, causing the deaths of thousands of people and the installing of a brutal military dictatorship in the process? Cause America has done that all over the world

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions
     
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    The answer is yes, but with initial great difficulty. Ultimately, we have enough energy to be more than self sufficient.

    I think if the US up and vanished, the world would have a harder time without us than if the rest of the world vanished leaving just the US.
     
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    is that why you import oil from about 5 different countries?
     
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    and do you not see the arrogance in your statement typical to an American? the entire WORLD would struggle more without one country than that one country would without the entire WORLD? the entire world that is 96% of the people on the world, most of the land, water, oil, diamonds, GDP, territory, technology, medicine, invention and education? but you're one country would get on better without them than they would without you? what disgusting nauseating arrogance only an American is capable of.
     
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    We use oil when we have the resources to create effective alternative fuels. Our government is just paid not to research these alternatives by oil companies.
     
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    you don't have effective fuels to sustain anything like your standard of living and economy without foreign oil. you need the world to make your products, buy your exports, buy your government bonds to cover up your massive debt bubble and buy all the guns you make. America is already bankrupt, China and others buying your debt is the only thing keeping you afloat. You also hoard the world's gold, hence the petro-dollar, you don't own it you just keep it for others.
     
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    This thread needs more Marilyn Manson. The problem is do I post "Irresponsible Hate Anthem" to characterize the Democrats, or "The Beautiful People" to characterize the Republicans?
     
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    We have more oil under our ground than the middle east. Cheap labor hurts American workers. We live in a ever increasing small world, and its moronic to believe. that everything in the world that's evil steems from America.

    It wasn't America that started two world wars that killed millions. It wasn't America that unleashed murderous communists regimes that killed another 100 million people in the 20th century. It wasn't America that carved up half the globe in the name of colonial exploitation, that still is responsible for ethnic and religious conflicts in third world nations.
    Is America innocent when it comes to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing people over around the globe, nope. But we where not the first and won't be the last.
     
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    100 million dead bodies and 2 world wars? OOOfffaaa!
     
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    We'd better wake up NOW about that. (But we'll probably wait until it becomes a crisis, like "healthcare" eventually did.)
     
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    Yep lecturing Americans isn't a sign of arrogance either.:rolleyes:
     
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    No you don't check your facts, you have nowhere near the amount the middle east has

    cheap labour hurts your workers? yeah maybe but it sustains your companies and economy and allows your citizens to buy things they otherwise couldn't afford

    America does nothing but (*)(*)(*)(*) people over around the world

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    you mean the big war with the nazis who America funded? those nazis?
     
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    No its not its a sign of awareness, that is the way the world is, everyone outside America knows it, but you get taught crap in school and get biased highly controlled news so you have no idea.
     
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    I agree. One the major issues we really need to deal with is that lobbyists and big money actually run our government. And big oil is one of the most insidious.
     
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    Ya not really, but whatever you need to tell yourself.
     
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    Just to interrupt your insecurity and inferiority for a second....

    We import oil from other countries for 2 reasons:
    1) it's cheap.
    2) the libs don't want us drilling, so we're sitting on the last of the world's oil supply.... for who knows how long.
     
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    Ya, you have no clue what you're talking about. American produces 22 million barrels per day. Our imports of crude oil is down 32% from 2008. Lastly , America never funded the Nazis, but it was eurotards that either appeased the Nazis, or directly collaborated with the Nazis.
     
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    Is not the US expected to be a net exporter of oil some time this year - If it has not already happened
     
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