Would you use Free Speech Social Media by a power hostile to USA?

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Would you use Free Speech Social Media by a power hostile to USA?

  1. No -- I am a patriot

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  2. Yes -- but I would feel guilt

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  3. Yes -- I am not a patriot

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    The year is 2026. All Social Media and all websites are thoroughly censored by Progressives. The only Free Speech Media available is held by foreign nations hostile to USA.
     
  2. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    None of the above. I'd find a way to start my own media and tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
     
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    In a word, yes. If you literally couldn't have online political conversation outside progressive lines, then yeah, I'm going elsewhere for political discourse. I don't think that makes one "not a patriot" or nor does it mean they should "feel guilty" because there is nothing desirable about that sort of censorship.

    If we're all being pushed onto the internet more and more (lockdowns, isolation, etc.), then I can't be blamed for seeking the least-authoritative platforms should American ones become straight-up hiveminds.
     
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  4. CCitizen

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    In 1980-83 we listened to Radio Svoboda -- Western radio broadcast over USSR.
     
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    I don't think any foreign media is as bad as ours, especially the liberal side.

    Reading a North Korean paper would have far less propaganda then the New York Times.
     
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    Sadly true. The American bias is Party A vs. Party B, not good idea vs. bad idea.
     
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    Turns out the FB, Google, and Twitter are already censoring what isn't allowed through the great firewall.... It shouldn't come as a surprise that this happens already. The horrible truth is that US corporations who are engaging in China are the reason we find ourselves where we do today. It's why Hollywood et al make the movies the way they do, so they can be shown in China. It's why US MSM find themselves so beholden to China and their influence is clearly seen. Democrats have literally sold out our nation. And in today's public internet, there are very few public squares left to express your opinions on without being censored by said platforms. Which is why they all should have their 230 liability shields removed from them. Once that happens, and FB, Twitter, et al can be legally charged with defamation, we will see what they choose. And in the end, it is all about the choices of the people who consume from them. This is why I don't support FB, or twitter, or Google. This is where folks actively start challenging their power.
     
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    In 1980-83 we loved to listen to the forbidden American radio -- Radio Freedom. It was broadcast from satellite over USA.

    Maybe now Russia will host Free Speech Sites for American Dissidents.
     
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    Well... that's quite a hypothetical situation you've set up there. And that precondition, plus the fact that none of your choices allow a response that says, "Yes, I'd use Free Speech Media available by foreign nations hostile to the USA -- and I would NOT feel guilty about it", makes it impossible for me to vote in the poll.

    Totally FREE, unfettered, uncensored speech is something I feel very strongly about. The worst tyrants in the world are always the manipulative crudballs who aspire to nothing better than to micromanage, distort, censor, and control your ability to say what you feel you want and/or need to say!

    You find them EVERYWHERE -- in foreign governments, right here in the good ol' USA, websites all over the planet, and (dare I suggest it), occasionally, right here in the Forum. Nevertheless, we should all be willing to stand up for our beliefs, no matter what our personal political orientation is.... Besides, if you visit 'hostile' forums and websites, you can always use the opportunity to LEARN what your opponents think, believe, adhere to, and WHY they do so!

    But, regarding censorship, per se, remember one thing well -- cockroaches always hate it when you turn on a light in the dark!
     
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    Thank you very much! Agree with every word you wrote 100%.
     
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    Yes and I AM a Patriot.
    I do not use Facebook much anymore (Just check in every couple of weeks to keep up with friends)
    I never use Twit.

    I also use "Duck Duck Go" now instead of Google.

    Those mega-companies are thoroughly censoring NOW!
     
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    [​IMG] Really, so much bellyaching over losing an election....
     
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    These are only free speech media as long as you incite against the western world.
    :(
     
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    Trump isn't the media lol.
     
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    Yes, and I wouldn't so much 'feel guilty'. I would use whichever one was the most free while supporting the least things I disagree with (because they're sll used to support something).
     
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    Even then, they may allow many criticism of Western Society which are forbidden elsewhere. Such as criticism of Leftist Totalitarianism.
     
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    Such criticism is not forbidden but is itself criticized. Anti-Western "critics" just can't stand that.

    Didn't you say you liked the Soviet Union? Marxism-Leninism is probably the most popular form of left totalitarianism. :(
     
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    most social media is outsourced via foreign outsourcing, so who is running your social media?

    as far as the question, only the right would do that, the right wants to control social media
     
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    if Trump got his way, no one could do that, as the legal risks would be to great if you could be sued from anything anyone on your site said

    had Trump got 4 more years, think of all the damage to our freedoms he could have done
     
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    they just can't see it, they drank the Kool-Aid
     
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    If "the only Free Speech Media available is held by foreign nations ..." then there is no choice to make. The answer is "yes" I would use their services without any doubt. But why on earth do you think those nations would necessarily be "hostile to the USA"? Is offering the possibility of sources of truth part of the "with or against us" equation? If so, my answer is still "yes", maybe even more so. If seeking truth puts me in the category of "hostile towards the U.S." then Washington has no one to blame but themselves. And if the truth really is hostile towards the U.S. then America is screwed anyway ... so f*k 'em!
     
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    I wonder if there is more truth in your response than I am willing to believe.
     
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    Yes, and although there was some truth in it, it was outrageously exaggerated. This, the former Warsaw Pact nations are now understanding but a little bit too late. Gorbatjov offered a solution that might have brought Eastern Europe to its most wonderful point in history, but alas, he was swept aside by the hysteria created by false promises made by Radio Free Europe.

    Oh yes! And it is already in progress in the Valdai discussions and other venues of friendship such as:

     
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    You do realize that Biden wants to do the same thing Trump wants right?

     
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    You remember that ... and I remember this:

     

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