WWII was started by Hitler, WWIII was started by Mohammad.

We're in a different kind of war, and it's getting worse. The US is now in its longest war....ever. Take a look at the kind of sentiment that is causing WWIII: "We gonna dominate the world", etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbD_ghudm0w&feature=related

There have been over 19,000 Islamic terrorist attacks, since the 9/11/01 tragedy (www.thereligionofpeace.com )

Is getting all the parties to become modern Secular Humanists the best solution? Your ideas?

 

Oh look another Islamophobe pops his ugly head out of the shell. What a shock.

Millions upon millions of people died in WWII, but the Prophet Mohammed has apparently come back and instilled - personally - a group of extremists to kill ... far fewer people and our little Crusader here in the religion section has just made a standing case for moral relativism and the rejection of reason in the name of religious zeal ... at its worst.

 

WHO DOES THE #1 TERRORIST OUTFIT IN THE WORLD (AL QAEDA) QUOTE THE MOST!? Mother Teresa? No, Mohammad.

The REASON Muslims don't stand up to the extremists enough to rein them in is because deep down they too want Sharia Law. They won't condemn Mohammad for saying to stone people to death, or to torture people (floggings, cutting off hands and feet, etc.), or to fight the infidel, etc.

 

An Islamophobe is someone who bashes Islam w/out knowing what Islam preaches, but an ISLAMOREALIST is someone who tries to show the world a better way (after knowing what Islam preaches.)

 

Oh, so tere has never been any other terrorist outfits out there? Like Nov 17? Which quotes your precious atheism? Or are you just being deliberately ignorant again in your Crusade?

More double standards from an atheist. What world needs now .. is hypocrisy ... sweet hypocisy; and ignorance ... more ignorance ...

 

You clearly have about as much knowlegde of Islam as you do ... Secular Humanism. In fact, you pretty much manage to get every religion wrong ... while assuming that its EVERYTHING but you that is the problem.

Get that a lot with zealots.

 

Modern Secular Humanism spawns few if any terrorists, but since 9/11/01 alone Islam has inspired over 19,000 terrorists, as the counter/list at thereligionofpeace.com shows.

I ask, just HOW MANY Islamic terrorist attacks is indeed ACCEPTABLE to you (since 9/11/01) for you to call a belief system a peaceful belief system? For modern Secular Humanism I'd say, what, 5, 10 tops is the most "acceptable" attacks to still call it peaceful. How many do you say for Islam (10, 50??)

Clearly people like Dawkins/Harris are far better role models than Mohammad who said "I have been made victorious with terror." (Bukhari:V4B52N220)

"Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'" (Ishaq:327)

"The Prophet said, 'I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.'" (Bukhari:V9B87N127)

"It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning...they shall taste the torment of Fire." Qur'an 59:2

 

It spawned you ... and its only a matter of time before your zealotry and abandonment of logic reaches levels of violence.

When people stop listening to you? When the NEED to reduce religion still persists? I dount you will be any more moral than your communist predessecors, who established a dictorship to force compliance with their 'righteous' views and systemically purged and murdered anyone who disgreed with them.

Enjoy your Crusade, just remember, the world has been down the road of insanity you preach.

 

I don't know if you heard but Mohammad is dead and has been for quite a while now, you might as well say Abraham is ready to march people into Palestine and kill everyone.

Also basing an entire religion on extremist groups in unstable region is not only dishonest but just stupid and simple minded, seriously you are talking about a fraction of a percentage of people practicing a religion it's like associating all Christians with people in Uganda.

The the funny thing is it's people like you that are the problem because you are doing exactly what the terrorists want, they want us to be scared of Muslims because fear causes irrational thoughts and we will begin outcasting good people because of stereotypes that you are enforcing. So congratulations you are part of the problem you are trying to stop.

 

Moderate Muslims won't condemn Mohammad for his declarations supporting terror, so they are the real problem. Heck, they can't even bring themselves to condemn his pedophilia, or torture, or murder, or rape, or banditry.

It's an unstable region because of the war-like teachings of Mohammad.

 

Who needs to when they have you?

And yes, they do. Maybe you should go live in a Muslim country for a while? Then, you'd understand why those of us who have, think you are completely and utterly buggared.

Well, you do have one thing in common with your hero Urban II, he too had never interacted with Muslims, but considered himself an expert n their faith, when launching a Crusade.

Enjoy.

 

The bible also has these things but saying Christians or Jews support these things would be just as stupid because that's obviously not true.

Plenty of Muslims say that these things were historical events and only apply to the times because they were at war. The reasons you don't see moderate Muslims or possibly other moderate religious people if you treat them the same way you are treating Muslims is because you are saying they are supporting these things. How can you claim to want moderates to speak out yet at the same time call them supporters of genocide and torture, replace every time you mentioned Muslims with Jews and Mohammad with Moses or possibly some other Jewish leader and see who compares more to Hitler.

 

Yep



http://youtu.be/_jP-eOrv2Ok

 

Extremism is driven by simple minds looking for simple answers.

Blame their religion. You are simple minded.

 

hopefully is will be nuclear

and the bigots get wiped off the map!

fix the thread,


Judea Declares War On Germany



Below is a facsimile[1] of the front page of Britain's Daily Express, March 24, 1933. (Full text of article follows.) Bear in mind that this was some six years before the start of WWII (1939-1945)!


try other sources

http://rense.com/general45/zzo.htm


and oppression in palestine, is to cause the "Red Dawn"




Dont believe me................

just wait and see!

 

Then please give us, say, 6 examples of moderate Muslims condemning Mohammad for his declarations supporting terror. I'm convinced that it can't be done.

 

Muslims believe the Qur'an is the literal word of god (through the angel) and a copy of the Qur'an is up in paradise, Christians/Jews, as bad as those religions are, don't believe that to the same degree.

You see more demonstrations against the Danish cartoons, against naming a teddy bear "Mohammad", against the French cartoons, and against the Innocence of Muslims movie trailer than you do against Islamic terrorism. Nuf said. They clearly won't stand up and try to stop an Islamic Caliphate. Under such Caliphate, many of you will be tortured or killed if you have sex outside of marriage, or if you are gay, or if you don't submit to your husbands (seriously). Your husband can beat you, and suffer no punishment, per Qur'an 4:34.

Here is a link to a video of an Islamic leader, recently, saying that we need 4:34,otherwise women will have too many rights.....clearly religion is dangerous:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/e...ects-to-constitutional-clause-prohibitin.html

 

He who is seeking freedom to maim and kill people should first denounce the murder, mayhem & terrorism in himself.
Otherwise, he is just part of the problem.

BTW Hitler couldn't have started WW2 without the crucially important contributions of Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt and Churchill.

 

If their religion didn't have the kill the infidels parts in it, and the calls to extremism, then they'd obviously be more civilized, generally. You don't think it's POVERTY that's causing the 19,000+ Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11/01, do you? It's clearly the disconnect from reality that religions cause. They are so, well, intellectually challenged, that they believe in magic genies (jinns) and dragons, because Mohammad did, and that that a genie could be living in your nose, for example. Might as well believe in fairies.

Any belief system with dragons (all 3 Abrahamic faiths) deserves to be treated as no better than a children's fairy tale (both have insane stuff, with a few good moral thoughts thrown in.) But religions, unlike children's fairy tales, want to try to have much control over your life.

 

You can't give 6 examples, can you? I knew it.

Modern Secular Humanists like Sam Harris don't advocate terrorism, so as a MSH myself I have done what you mentioned.

 

I'm afraid you don't understand what Islam teaches regarding war and Jews, my friend. It teaches the following, for example:
"Hamas Charter, Article 7 says they have been looking forward to implementing Allah's promise, however long it might take. Mohammad said: 'The time (of Resurrection) [this is a good thing, they fell] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: 0 Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!'" Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985

So Muslims are looking FORWARD to killing all the Jews, just like Hitler did. They won't say Mohammad was a bit insane (like the Innocence of Muslims film accurately shows) for believing that rocks and trees can talk.

What do Richard Dawkins and other modern Secular Humanists say regarding Jews? "Love them (and others, of course)", basically...but not kill them, and/or (*)(*)(*)(*) them to eternal torment like the immoral "Jesus" wants. Jesus, the KKK, Mohammad, and Hitler, all ultimately hate Jews, so they don't represent loving belief systems, but morally bankrupt belief systems.

 

You don't have a clue.

Go on hating people though.

 

Fundamentalists believe holy books literally many Muslims are fundamentalists but many are not, I could pull up Quotes from people in Uganda saying homosexuality is a capital crime, some Christians and Jews are very fundamentalist though you really want to talk about terrorist attacks? Okay look up the IRA do these people represent all Catholics? No they don't because many people speak out against them and guess what it's the same with many Muslims.

Also again we're going to talk about a group of extremists causing violence because of something irrational? Yeah nobody has ever done that before. Seriously just listen to yourself you are putting a blanket statement across billions of people how is this rational? Sure there are many extremists in all religions or political ideologies but want to know the smartest form of action against these people are? It's called getting people on your side, the more people you have on your side for a common goal is always the best form of action and many Muslims are against these radicals so strength in numbers fighting against these people and possibly convincing more people to be on your side will always be a better form of action than just saying all these people who believe in some God are murderers and want to kill everyone and even though I'm being an ass to them I expect them to be on my side.

 

Please tell us which is more hateful, me just pointing the hate out, or this hatred (the hatred itself):
"Hamas Charter, Article 7 says they have been looking forward to implementing Allah's promise, however long it might take. Mohammad said: 'The time (of Resurrection) [this is a good thing, they fell] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: 0 Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!'" Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985

I can justify pointing out the hatred, but I don't think that you can justify the hatred itself - that exists in the Islamic texts. There is a solution, however. So I dislike an ideology, but not the Muslims themselves.

 

You are seriously deluded if you think that Muslims condemn Mohammad for saying things like he said in quote in post #21. They won't, because they do believe he's the ultimate role model for all time (Quran 33:21), and he advocated eventual genocide of the Jews, and wanted a world-wide TOTALITARIAN Islamic supremacist state (so he's like Hilter, w/out the funny mustache.)