WWII was started by Hitler, WWIII was started by Mohammad.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    The EDL supports Muslim deportation (I think)....I do not. The EDL are usually (but not only) Christians, who couldn't get into a real debate about Islam vs. Christianity because they know Christianity is not better than Islam, so they solution is deportation, when the best solution is conversion to modern Secular Humanism.

    If your livelihood depended on, say, you getting $50 for every Muslim you could find to say that this incredibly discriminatory passage in the Qur'an is wrong (THEY WON'T!!), you'd starve: Quran 2:282: "... and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other...".

    Do YOU believe that Mohammad got it wrong that a women's testimony is worth only 1/2 that of a man's?
     
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    Yes I would and many Muslims would too but most don't believe he was, like I said when you talk with normal everyday Muslims they see Mohammed as a man who condemned all these things so would see it as immoral. Though I presume you ask the question differently, if I had to guess I would say you tell them he was a rapist and then ask if they think he was a moral person which is a gotcha question like the example I gave with the founding fathers.

    The only thing you might consider rape that they are aware of or believe in is the 9 year old girl though even then they see it as of the time and it was generally normal even if we don't agree with it now for reasons we would find obvious.
     
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    This is what I was meaning with before you first assume what they believe and then ask a gotcha question look I'll give the same comparison.

    The founding fathers had slaves, the constitution allowed slavery. Do YOU believe that the founding fathers were wrong.

    Now if I say they were wrong you could say that I have left my belief that the founders were good people and not a true believer in the constitution and if I say they weren't well obviously I would be a supporter of slavery.

    Instead of asking questions that sound like they came from some website to ask people to catch people out why not actually converse and talk you know what normal people do.
     
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    Not only this. The german expression "Muselmane[n]", "Muselmann" was a long time in history only an expression for muslim. Since Hitler it's a taboo here to call someone "Muselmann", because the Nazis used this word for prisoners with a very delicate state of health in concentration camps. "Muselmann" became under Hitler a completly negative rassistic expression.

    http://youtu.be/zXnnpRrtvL4
     
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    The Iran tries to develope nuclear weapons. Every idiot on this planet "knows" this - even every Iranian. The problem: ... death ...

    http://youtu.be/2bWlzQLLVlA
     
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    Iran did not declare war on America. The foolish people of America allowed their public servants to declare war on Iran.

    Britain & USA attacked Iran during after WW1 with poison gas and time delay bombs, later attacked them in other ways including the 1953 attack, again with the Shah, Khomeni, the Iraq/Iran war, the USA spends hundreds of millions of dollars arranging assassinations and bombings in Iran, the USA is doing all it can to destroy Iran economically and is constantly threatening Iran with nuclear war.

    The people from the Sinogog of God's Adversaries are doing all they can to get the Iranians to react angrily to our many vicious provocations, and God Willing, they have overcome any such weakness, and are following their Christian Heritage of being pro-active in overcoming evil with good.
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    Another "us" MAYTAG maybe referring to are the people of the sinogog of God's adversaries that Wahab Ibn Abdollah Ibn Kalbi is addressing here:
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    No, the solution is killing as many terrorists as possible in the short term. The long term solution is for the U.S. to withdraw from the muslim world - financially, politically and militarily. We aren't welcome there. That means our existence there is forced. There are no religious solutions. People don't change religious beliefs because someone else wants them to.
     

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