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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is 5ths disease?
     
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    I’m not dismissing the virus. We simply do not need to be acting paranoid the way we are. More people have recovered than died from Covid. That is a fact, plus the mortality rate has fallen in the US.

    We are not facing Armageddon, we will get out of this alive.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apples/oranges. Whataboutism does not reduce the danger of this virus.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Aside from the Spanish flu, name one. And provide some proof.

    Also, they don't have an accurate death count from that pandemic. It could have anywhere from 17 million to 50 million.

    Did you know that the exact same flu struck again in 2009-2010? We had a much better result due to the fact that it was taken seriously, we have a vaccine for it now, and because conditions in most of the world are much more sanitary than in 1918.
     
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    Ok then be terrified about that which one cannot control. Bundles of nucleic acids that can get under doors and windows. Go to the grocery store and touch something...DANGER! Lock everything down. Insects or rodents come into your house...DANGER!
    Or deal with it directly because this is what your amazing immune system was designed for!
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    China employed an extreme lockdown program, that's how they got it under control. If we had better leadership, a lockdown and a mask mandate would have been federal, and instead of the spiking numbers we have now, we could be down in the teens for daily hospitalization.

    Instead, we have an ignoramous in the White House essentially telling people that if they support him, they won't wear masks, and claiming that those of us wearing them are doing so to spite him, personally. With Trump, everything is about him.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A little paranoia is a healthy thing.

    If I'm paranoid about this virus, perhaps I have good reason.
     
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    Exactly and the poster who made the comparison is obviously clueless and grasping at straws to make a nonsensical point.
     
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    Nope, it started in China then peaked then moved to Europe then peaked and is now in the US and will peak there and move on to somewhere else. The nature of microorganisms. India still has the bubonic plague because microorganisms love close quarters.
    Hiding in your mom’s basement is not going to intimidate RNA which is determined to infect you! And the wet markets are opening up in China again so get ready for the next wave cause they are people of color and we don’t dare criticize them. Fear of racism will always trump fear of death.
    We would rather die and let our children die than to be thought to be racist. 60 years of social engineering have finally paid off in creating a no questions asked obedient society ready for the plucking!
     
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    Please don’t let journalists be your source of information on reinfection. They don’t understand the subject or are being intentionally disingenuous.
     
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    Or perhaps paranoia is better spent on cancer or heart disease or organ failure which is MUCH more likely to kill you!!
     
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    Bar stool epidemiology...
     
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    A federal lockdown would have been unconstitutional and the Democrat leaders would have been accusing the president of being an authoritarian dictator (a term they have already used under other circumstances). States are individually responsible for the health of their citizens.

    If Trump had strongly advised wearing masks, Democrats would protest by not wearing masks if the last 3.5 years of history in responses to whatever Trump says and does are any indication.
     
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    What kills people are facts not bar stool ramblings. Ask any ME.
    Cancer, CVD or organ failure are waiting for all of us. This virus will take out very few of us in comparison.
    Sorry to deflate the happy drama of the schadenfreude folk on here.
     
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    Dude.

    You made the claim that Belgians have been exposed. You need to prove that ****.
     
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    cirdellin Banned

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    Excuse me:
    Prove otherwise.
     
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    If you had it? and unless you had a test you do not know. Bad news for vaccine and possibly you is that antibodies do not seem to last long. If you had it in March you probably do not have them any more. ...and yes a lot of people, some of whom did not seem particularly ill are having continual problems, whether that is just fatigue, problems with their lungs or other issues affecting their quality of life. This virus in general kills more the older you are but that does not mean it is not going to leave life long illnesses to a lot of people who it had infected including infected very mildly - I was hearing asymptomatically the other day. There is though some new research which suggests some people are immune to it without even having come in contact with it as well as people having had one of the previous coronavirus's. It is T cells which are providing this protection and some people have protection against Covid 19 simply from having had a particular cold. It looks likely that a vaccine if it comes will be providing safety through T cells rather than antibodies.

    The saddest thing of course is the people, I notice not yourself but those who refuse to wear masks - possibly even sadder those who believe this is fake news. I had thought we had become a bit more intelligent but no, just a lot more egotistical! :)
     
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    Paranoia, schmaranoia....

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    You should have yourself tested for the COVID-19 antibodies. It is still not clear how effective those antibodies will be in preventing future infections.
     
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    Cancer, CVD and organ failure don't cause surges in hospitalizations like COVID and are not contagious. Hospitals are being overloaded with COVID patients which means there is less bed availability and treatments for other people with other conditions.
     
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    Your Claim. Your Burden.

    You know what, **** it. This took about 3 seconds:

    Hospital-Wide SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Screening in 3056 Staff in a Tertiary Center in Belgium

    I will be generous and give you that hospital workers, even though they are theoretically being exposed every day, are more likely to be taking precautions and to have PPE as opposed to the general population.

    But to get from 6.4% of the hospital staff in one of the hardest hit regions of Belgium to claiming that even 25% of the general population, let alone the 60-70% generally viewed as necessary to achieve "herd immunity," is absurdly unlikely.
     
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    Passed out cold bar stool epidemiology..
     
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    Look you are going to contract this disease or not.
    If you contract it you are going to die or not and almost certainly not.
    The Netherlands did a very good job of balancing risk to herd immunity.
    Belgium did not.
    I wish to be clear here. People need to be exposed to get past this. Hiding only extends the problem.
    Be an adult and face the risks. Life cannot be lived without risk or it’s just a shell of itself.
    Pathetic!
     
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    With an Infection Fatality Rate of .65%
     
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    We are mortal. What do you expect will finish you off? It can’t possibly be this virus!!!
     

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