https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/202...-times-more-likely-with-covid-than-with-flu#1 https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coro...-of-covid-19-patients-show-damage/ar-BB16F2eq https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...s/coronavirus-kidney-damage-caused-by-covid19 This is a dangerous disease resulting in long term organ damage. Check out the links. I didn't link lung damage... cause that is well known.
You do realize this pandemic is much less deadly than pandemics in the past, right? Spanish Flu killed 50 million people. We are likely to reach a vaccine way before then. Again, I don’t think you are accounting for the nearly two million in the US that have recovered.
THAT's the defense for your trying to downplay the seriousness of this thing? It's not as bad as the worst pandemic in human history? Just stop
7 out of 100,000 people in the world have died of this. Compare this to HIV or Auto accidents or malaria or other communicable diseases. Clearly people like the drama of this virus or it’s simply Schadenfreude. And I find Schadenfreude disgusting
Calling people careless, heartless and lazy, while tossing in several "How you you's" is now considered by some to be commendable empathic intellect. That's interesting.
Why? Have those things gone away? We have had over 130,000 people die in just a few months and you want to do NOTHING to stop the ongoing death and destruction. WTF?
There is some Supreme idiocy to be found in trying to pretend that the virus will stop killing people. 7 out of 100k so far.
It makes no sense to dismiss the threat of this virus because it is not as deadly as the deadliest pandemic of the last 150 years.
Yes and then everyone will be exposed and it will end. Hiding in our houses and wrecking the economy in the forlorn hope of not being exposed solves literally nothing. Just displays our cowardice! I refuse to be a coward!
Belgium went into extreme lockdown and has the highest kill rate from this virus. Japan hardly closed anything down but has one of the lowest kill rates from this virus. Lockdowns are not correlated to success. But if you don’t own a business or have any investments and are happy taking government welfare cause it’s more fun than working then I guess I sort of understand.
I don't care if you think me a coward. I am following the recommendations of relevant experts - not some anonymous dude on the internet who has the benefit of having already recovered from this virus and thus - hopefully - has antibodies for a few weeks yet. This virus is extremely dangerous and if you accelerate its natural expansion through the population by refusing to engage in pandemoc control measures before the medical community has the time to develop viable therapeutics and vaccines, then we will lose millions of loves needlessly.
Lockdowns are very much correlated to success. That is why Belgium, despite seeing the highest case fatality rate thus far, is now seeing daily cases in the teens and daily deaths in the single digits.
Prove it. The closest that I have seen of any serology test study is around 35% exposed in Sweden. To be more specific, they did a study in early May to find it was at 7.3% exposed and by mid June, it was 20-25%. So I am being generous and projecting their current exposure to around 35%, especially when you consider that 75-80% of Swedish citizens said they have adjusted their behavior to minimize the risk of catching and spreading the virus.
So these are based on antibody tests which track past exposure...or not? One cannot run away from viruses like one can run away from advancing armies. Look at the Peloponnesian war when Athenians hid behind walls and created one of the biggest plagues in history. I know I’ve been exposed and am glad of it.
Yes. Serology tests are designed to identify people who have been exposed to the virus. You claimed nearly everyone has been exposed in Belgium. Prove it.
Citations please! How could the Belgians not be? A crowded country like this. It’s over in China as well. They are moving on as should we all.
Sweden which asked people to voluntarily social distance is also seeing daily deaths in the single digits now. They estimate that about 1/3rd of the population voluntarily complied with suggestions to stay home and limit interactions. Sweden did suffer a tremendous amount of deaths of the elderly, first due to outbreaks in nursing homes, and later because they allowed doctors to use palliative care instead of "taking up space" in ICU beds, if the doctor judged that the patient would likely not survive even with 1-3 weeks in intensive care. Effectively, they euthanized many elderly who probably would have survived a while longer (but with what quality of life). Cases: Deaths: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=sweden+covid+tracking
Sweden tried your approach it failed miserably. They had many times the deaths of neighboring countries and the economy was just as screwed (maybe more so) because scared people don't work and don't buy. Let's not do that. It doesn't work
Sweden also did not destroy it’s economy in the vane attempt to stop a virus which will be on the march against any pitiful attempts to stop it. The Swedes also feel that the ramp up In cases is due to increased testing. Same thing happened in the US and the Netherlands Only tested in extreme sickness. Conflation of merely presumed cases and deaths is of course statistically nonsense. Subjective to the ME