Zelensky takes credit for derailing Minsk agreements

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  1. Durandal

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    Most of ruZZia makes even a trailer park look good by comparison. At least trailer parks have running water!
     
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    What the heck are we spending BILLIONS of dollars defending Ukraine's borders, and wasting our war stocks, while leaving our own wide open?
    China is about to win.
     
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    Depleting your war stocks and leaving the US 'wide open' really?

    Tell me, exactly how much has the US Navy's and Air Force's stocks of munitions and equipment been 'run down' by the war in Ukraine? Answer? Almost zero, with the excretion of some early generation/soon to be decommissioned HARM missiles nothing has been removed from the US Air Forces arsenal and nothing at all from the US Navy's arsenal unless you consider a few coastal patrol launch's critical to the defense of the United States.

    Beyond that? US stocks of older ATGMs (Javelins) and MANPADS (Stinger's) have been run down. Stinger is due to be replaced and Javelins are being shifted to a higher rate production cycle to make up for the losses to date. With the only limitation being chip shortages, which are also being made up asap. Same for Excalibur and other 'smart artillery' fuses and HIMARs. Apart from that only mothballed Abrams and Bradley's are being offered, not current front line vehicles.

    At worst the US Army and Marines face some potential temporary limitations on the number of ATGMs, MANPADs and 155,mm artilley rounds available for immediate use. And even then the correct term is 'shortages' not unavailability!

    Now explain to me how all of that is going to cripple the US's capacity to defend itself from China! Especially given the fact that the any war between the two is going to be primarily fought in the air and on/below the sea!
     
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    Don't drink the running water in Flynt mate .. running or not .. and you should try riding the subway from Skokie into downtown Chicago is you want to uplift the trailer park.
     
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    We should be sending our soldiers over there if we want to deplete resources .. those are what run down quick these days ... in the clone wars - the clones will never stop coming .. fighting the wars for us .. cept those fed into the meat grinder
     
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    Zelensky also failed to enforce the Steinmeier Formula which called for elections in Russian speaking regions of the Donbass, largely because of his neo-Nazi paramilitary units' opposition to "capitulation";
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    "In a face-to-face confrontation with militants from the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion who had launched a campaign to sabotage the peace initiative called 'No to Capitulation,' Zelensky encountered a wall of obstinacy.

    "With appeals for disengagement from the frontlines firmly rejected, Zelensky melted down on camera. 'I’m the president of this country. I’m 41 years old. I’m not a loser. I came to you and told you: remove the weapons,' Zelensky implored the fighters."

    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/
     
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    Ha ha ha ! Oh yes the Bolshiviki did indeed eat up the communist schiest and infused it with centuries of Moskhailnyk barbarianism into criminal Sovietism.
     
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    The message of this post is nothing but homogenized fecal matter continuously farted out of the the mouth of Moskhailnyk propaganda oracle the Kremlin.
     
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    Yeah, I've seen that video a long time ago. I doubt any of these pro-ukie warmongers have the balls to go watch it at the grayzone link you posted. They instead like to support nazis without admitting it
     
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    The West hates V. Putin. But in vain. They need to pray for him.
    In 2024, presidential elections will be held in Russia. V. Putin is not very young. But damn smart, prudent and decisive. Russians, you are very lucky - God and "Tyrant" are with you.
    But these foolish western politicians angry at "Tyrant", They are tormented by dreams of the theoretical possibility of intimidating him into submission. This is a consequence of their mental degeneration and bipolar perception of Reality.
    (Bipolar disorder is some kind of mysterious mental illness. Something like mental leprosy or mental syphilis.
    In short - paranoia complicated by unreasonable anger based on mental insufficiency. Western politicians have this disease without exception.)
    Let's look at Britain for example.
    From degeneration, a consequence of inbreeding (closely related crossing), they are trying to escape by co-opting all sorts of Negro-Mujahideen into their families. Recently, completely degenerated into trash, the Windsors (Britain) caught a mulatto and forced her to marry the prince. In order to improve the breed.
    British scientists did not tell them that with a radical "mixing of blood" a drop in mental abilities and an increase in the level of psychopathic symptoms in offspring are inevitable ...
    The elite of Britain, realizing their mental inferiority, is forced to trust the government of the country to all sorts of foreign swindlers. Just take a look at the personnel of the British government. Some Negro-Malays, Hindi-lesbians and persons of unknown origin - under the command of the Indian-Dravidian Rishi Sunak. Risha is visually an inveterate swindler.
    (When they kick him out, it will be necessary to count the silver spoons and forks. Can steal. And now it is possible that he takes out one at a time.
    You can see it in the eyes.)
    And so it is all over Europe.
    In order to train Western psychopathic politicians, it is necessary to influence his psyche with tenderness and fear.
    That is, stroking the wool, arousing empathy. Or beat with a stick and kick in the ribs.
    Historical practice shows that ironing the hair of a psychopath - an animal, appealing to his mind - is futile.
    The memory of a psychopathic animal is approximately equal to the long-term memory of a crucian - 3 seconds. Western politicians have a couple of generations.
    The leaders of the West lack empathy completely. Like the Neanderthals.
    They are sure that talking like a human being is a sign of weakness. Try to talk like a human being with a gang of bandits.
    The only way to influence them is to cause their fear.
    Therefore, they perceive any reasonable arguments of Putin, as befits degradant bandits, with skepticism.
    They are sure that he will not dare to use the last argument of kings - "cannons". In vain, of course. Dare. And apply.

    However, if Western politicians do not like Putin, then an alternative can be offered in the upcoming elections.
    Don't you sirs, herrs and monsieurs like "Tyrant"?
    Do not worry.
    Russia is a democratic country.
    In the next elections, the people will be offered the candidacies of Vladimir Putin and Yevgeny Prigozhin.

    Prigogine is a determined and capable guy. He will not stroke your fur. And against the wool will not.
    These are half measures. He does not like them - by nature.
    He will offer you something and start the countdown. If you don't have time to do it - your problems ...
    He Just will hit out of all the available trunks.
    You won't even have time to get together for the next summit...

    Have you fallen in love with Terran yet? Hurry, sirs, herrs, and monsieurs. Time is running out...
     
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    I like Terran. Especially against Zerg. :)
     
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    The Minsk agreements were bound to fail for the fact that zelensky saw it as a means to reunited Ukraine while Putin saw it as an agreement to peel away those areas to have them under Russian control.

    So once again, billy doesn't know what he's talking about.


    Maybe Russia should stay in its own lane and stop trying to re draw the lines on the world map?
     
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    I'll hazard a guess Pig-rozhin will be dead by the time Mafiosi "elections" roll around. He's more of a liability than any asset at this point.....:).
     
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    Old habits die hard.
     
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    2024? Yeah, I could see that. Crimea will likely fall by then.
     
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    Yep....Pig-rozhin reminds me of a modern day Oscar Dirlewanger (SS Sonderkommando, 36th Waffen SS), penal Brigade colony. Clean out prisons of muggers,rapists,sadists, vermin....give them 2 hrs training....send them to their agonizing death.

    OD wasn't overly popular with most NAZI bigwigs....Himmler kept him around mainly for the "dirty work" away from official eyes

    ODs work in Warsaw Uprising back in September 44 was one example of this vermins barbarity.....other areas were Belarus, Slovakia,RF territory. Same as Kaminsky Brigade ,although not as notorious.

    As all vicious dogs...OD met his violent,brutal end after the war....with torture and a few well placed slugs in the capper.

    Same might happen to Pig-rozhin....:).
     
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    He can die by sledgehammer or face a war crimes tribunal. I'm good either way. :)
     
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    Yep....sledgehammer is a quick end....war crimes tribunal....may take a while....but I suspect a "sudden heart attack or stroke" in his jail cell will be his demise....with cameras turned off?:)
     
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    You engage in the lowest form of Jew baiting on this thread and you call others Nazis. Very credible.

    Each time you respond you make it clear what you are and why you are on the forum and its actually a shame your posts remain up on this thread to turn a war that is killing so many and harming so many others into a pathetic excuse to hate monger.

    Your words speak loudly.

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    Oh the irony and projection. Fact is the jew in Kyiv is responsible for the deaths of over 150,000...so far. Fact is the jew in Kyiv has aligned with the Neo-nazis in Banderastan....who are/were committing ethnic genocide for the last 8+ years. Fact is the U.S. is the reason a peace deal that was almost finalized last March got scuttled....Boris the clown as messenger. Fact is ukie land doesn't hold the moral high ground in this conflict and hasn't since the treasonous nationalists in parliament concocted a fake government with a violent Coup. Fact is there is no democracy in ukie land and hasn't been since 2014.

    And finally.

    Fact is zelensky took credit for derailing the Minsk Peace Agreements.

    All facts. Deal with it.

    By the way, what do you say about the ukrops using poison gas? Dropping from drones? Just one more war crime to go along with the genocide.
     
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    All facts?

    Provide them?.....especially Ukrops using poison gas....from drones?

    This should be amusing.
     
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    Why don't you try refuting any content in my post instead of resorting to a pathetic ESL ad hominem?
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    Here's an easy one:

    "Raised in a non-religious Jewish family in the Soviet Union during the 1980’s, Zelensky has downplayed his heritage in the past. 'The fact that I am Jewish barely makes 20 in my long list of faults,' he joked during a 2019 interview in which he declined to go into further detail about his religious background.

    "Today, as Russian troops bear down on cities like Mariupol, which is effectively under the control of the Azov Battalion, Zelensky is no longer ashamed to broadcast his Jewishness. 'How could I be a Nazi?' he wondered aloud during a public address.

    "For a US media engaged in an all-out information war against Russia, the president’s Jewish background has become an essential public relations tool."

    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/
     
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    "The grayzone"....is a wingnut publication known for publishing misleading info and is sympathetic to $hitbag dictators like Hamas,Hezbollah,Maduro,Putinka, and whatever other garbage.

    I'll sooner read graffiti spray painted on some brick wall somewhere....and probably more reliable.
     
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    Incoming rt.com link
     

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