Trans teen commits suicide due to transphobic parents

I will.

One would think that after the alleged suicide of an alleged family member one would be a bit more understanding of others. Tell me, did you advise this family member (alleged) to eschew medical treatment in favor of religious indoctrination to deal with their problems? Or did you make constant comments about genital mutilation in reference to this alleged family members life?

 

Mr Myself, thank you for your concern and the use of the word "alleged"

Did I mention if our family member took his/her life because they were confused about sex?

What I will tell you is that nobody was to blame. Yes, we all blamed ourselves and internally, each other. Yes, we all felt guilt, sorrow, anger and ultimately, sorrow and loss eventually settle in for the long haul. Looking at family photos brings back the sadness as do holidays.

How does a person with serious birth defects cope with life?

How does the soldier who lost legs and an arm cope with life?

The list can go on.

The sanctimonious "do-gooders" who think that suicide is the result of "bigotry" or "hatred" etc are as far out in left field as you can get.

it comes down to coping with life and in the case of this boy, he needed to accept that he was a boy and get fixed whatever chemical imbalance he had.

 

Of course. It is, after all, anecdotal, with nothing to support it, and conveniently added into your posts CV as of late.

No? Perhaps it was because they felt there was no one in their family to talk to without fear of them hating him or her for what they are.

 

there is reality and then there's fiction

Once again, your post is steeped in fiction.

It comes down to the inability to cope with life. Now, a chemical imbalance could be a cause as to why one cannot cope and becomes depressed. Also, some are very good at putting on airs. One can only hope that this boy had the time to ask forgiveness, be absolved and carried home to our Father.

 

Is it? I am assuming facts that you are putting forth, albeit with caveats. Are you not being truthful?

In this case, you tout Christian counseling, correct? Chanting, praying, incense and the like to magically cure the young lady, correct?

Father? Wouldn't a benevolent and loving magic being not create something he or she hated so much? Additionally, if your god was a father, why not act as a father would and help the child?

 

It seems that Leelah needed counseling from a reputable therapist for her depression, and to help her sort out issues related to gender identity, etc. She apparently didn't receive it.

It would be easy for me to sit in judgment of her parents' handling of the situation. But passing judgment won't restore Leelah's life.

As for the act of suicide, it should not be glorified, nor should those who pursue it as a 'solution' be considered martyrs for some cause.

With regard to 'enabling' someone who identifies as transgender, yes - I most certainly will enable such a person to feel comfortable in my presence by addressing them in accordance with their identified gender and the name of their choosing. It matters not to me at all what 'parts' they were born with, or whether they've had surgery in pursuit of confirming their gender identity through changes to their physical appearance. Because I get that it's not about me.

No transgender person is responsible for the hypothetical misbehavior of horny schoolboys pretending to be transgender in order to peep at girls in the locker room. Shifting the blame for something that hasn't even happened - that's a pretty disgusting way to argue the issues.

If you have a problem with people who are gay, or transgender, or whatever - get over it. You are the one with the problem - stop trying to make it theirs.

 

It's none of my business what religious beliefs and political alignments my child chooses. Therefore, how I would feel about it is irrelevant.

 

I did not say that Christian counseling would or would not have helped this troubled boy. Again, that is a work of fiction by you

God is with a capital G and taking of ones life is a sin and forgiveness must be asked.

 

Do you think that Christian counseling would have helped this young lady? You have, after all, touted it. In this case it was an abject failure. Have you considered that if this girls parents did not hold views almost identical to your this child may be alive?

 

was it the fault of the mom that the boy stepped into the path of a truck ?

 

Please answer the question rather than sidestepping it.

Have you considered that if this girls parents did not hold views almost identical to your this child may be alive?

 

it would seem that your contention is that it was the fault of the mom. I don't know what story you are reading but it was a boy who died, not a girl.

you are seriously misguided if you believe that the mom is to blame.

 

How can you ask for forgiveness after suicide?

According to your silly doctrine Leelah is now in hell, permanently separated from God, and enduring unimaginable torment. Let's not pretend it says otherwise.

 

the soul is able to communicate. The simple words "God forgive me" are all that's needed

If the boy wished damnation then that was his choice and not the choice of anyone else

 

Where ?

 

If you know the correct way to treat a mental illness why are you wasting your time here?

Shouldn't you be the lead professor of experimental psychology at UCDavis?

Why don't you enlighten me on your methodology, show me your experiments mark their success rates, explain your failures. I am a mere masters degree holder of behavioral science but I would follow your thesis.

Show us the correct way to treat mental illness. Nothing is stopping you unless it amounts to this. ..

Bob Newhart-Stop It: http://youtu.be/Ow0lr63y4Mw

 

Doctrine is dogma, it is useless and it is invented by the clergy to aggrandize and empower the clergy.

Anybody that follows dogma is a slave and an imbecile.

 

I'd say to an extent, yes. Being an idiotic slave to dogma stopped her from getting education in the subject. Caused her to push away her child. And not help him/her/whatever politically correct pronoun you wish to ascribe.

She could have walked away from her idiotic backward anachronistic superstitions. They serve no purpose in this world but to keep stupid people stupid. But she chose the tarot card masters over her child. She deserves the blame. I hope it haunts her to her dying day.

 

When people filter things through church dogma they have to toss out much of the science in the discussion. Mostly because science is heresy. It removes the mystery.

I would trust a Christian "therapist" over a real therapist with the mental health of my child about as much as I would trust a voodoo healer over a doctor with the physical health of my child.

They are Christian first, they can't possibly be therapists. The leading word in their title underlines absolute confirmation bias. The second word is juxtaposed to the first word.

A Christian therapist is like an atheist prayer leader.

 

She is attempting to turn this into partisan politics. She mentions... "THE LEFT...dum dum dum."

She is a partisan hack. Nothing more.

 

so explain how is being attracted to an underage female considered a mental illness but being attracted to the same sex or wanting to be the opposite sex isn't?
as you have demonstrates by your avatar you are attracted to underage boys and that would be considered a mental illness

 

That is simply, first you have to understand what a mental illness is.

Mental illness is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that directly causes suffering or impaired function in society.

Homosexuality has caused none of those. However I do believe sexual disphoria or transsexualism is a mental disorder. It isn't a delusion because it's a diaspora. It does cause suffering and impaired function. In Some cases a sex change operation does alleviate suffering, so in some cases it is actually a treatment. I don't believe it is in all cases but more research is needed. And politics needs to butt the (*)(*)(*)(*) out.

 

being attracted to under age women causes no one any suffering
and homosexuality does cause impaired function in society because they don't procreate which is a function to keep and maintain a society
so explain if you are attracted to underage females you will be diagnosed as having a mental disorder then you go to a culture that having sex with underage females is the norm and excepted does that then cure them of the so called mental disorder?

 

Yes it does. Either the person that is attracted to underage girls will never be sexually fulfilled or children will be victimized.

people don't have to procreate to function in society. If that was true every single person and celibate clergyman would be mentally ill. You are saying not breeding is a mental illness. That simply isn't true. Some people don't want children. They aren't mentally ill.

No, simply finding a culture with lesser morals doesn't cure mental illness. It's just that they don't care. What you are doing is still morally reprehensible it's just that you have found a culture that hasn't evolved to the point to understand that.

 

how long will an all gay society last? not very long so how in the hell can you say being gay cant be damaging to a society?