Trans teen commits suicide due to transphobic parents

Sounds to me like the guy had some serious need of psychiatric treatment and medication. No reason for anybody else to be angry about it. In all your god paranoia you probably missed the part in his suicide note about his friends not giving a poo about him either.

 

I think they were referring to wearing the opposite sexes clothes, not getting out a knife and mutilating yourself

 

What on earth does this have to do with mental illness?

 

Alright then.

 

Is everyone in society gay? No? Then your entire premise is nothing more than "What if?"

Also...in case you haven't noticed...but gays are having kids. Artificial insemination, adoption, surrogate mothers. So your entire point is completely baseless.

 

Leelah killed herself because she was denied the right to live as her true self. Read the damn note again. The "treatment" she received only made her worse, and somehow conservatives are performing the mental gymnastics necessary to convince them that this somehow proves that that treatment is necessary and justified.

Her friends grew distant from her because she was cut off from the world for months by her parents. What the hell do you expect to happen when that happens?

 

That's not how I and millions of others understand it.

"Question: "Will there be a second chance for salvation after death?"

Answer: While the idea of a second chance for salvation is appealing, the Bible is clear that death is the end of all chances. Hebrews 9:27 tells us that we die, and then face judgment. So, as long as a person is alive, he has a second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. chance to accept Christ and be saved (John 3:16; Romans 10:9-10; Acts 16:31). Once a person dies, there are no more chances. The idea of purgatory, a place where people go after death to pay for their sins, has no biblical basis, but is rather a tradition of the Roman Catholic Church.

To understand what happens to nonbelievers after they die, we go to Revelation 20:11-15 which describes the Great White Throne judgment. Here takes place the opening of the books and “the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.” The books contain all the thoughts and deeds of those being judged, and we know from Romans 3:20 that “by the works of the Law is no flesh justified.” Therefore, all who are judged by their works and thoughts are condemned to hell. Believers in Christ, on the other hand, are not judged by the books of works, but their names are found written in another book—the “Lamb’s Book of Life” (Revelation 21:27). These are the ones who have believed on the Lord Jesus, and they alone will be allowed to enter heaven.

The key to understanding this is the Lamb’s Book of Life. Anyone whose name is written in this book was “saved before the foundation of the world” (Ephesians 1:4) by God’s sovereign saving grace to be part of His Son’s bride, the church of Jesus Christ. These people need no “second chance” at salvation because their salvation has been secured by Christ. He chose us, He saved us, and He will keep us saved. Nothing can separate us from Christ (Romans 8:39). Those for whom He died will be saved because Jesus will see to it. He declared “all that the Father has given me will come to me” (John 6:37), and “I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand” (John 10:2. For believers, there is no need for a second chance because the first chance is sufficient.

What about those who do not believe? Wouldn’t they repent and believe if they were given a second chance? The answer is no, they would not because their hearts are not changed simply because they die. Their hearts and minds “are at enmity” against God and won’t accept Him even when they see Him face to face. This is evidenced clearly in the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31. If ever someone should have repented when given a second chance to see clearly the truth, it was the rich man. But although he was in torment in hell, he only asked that Abraham send Lazarus back to earth to warn his brothers so they didn’t have to suffer the same fate. There was no repentance in his heart, only regret for where he found himself. Abraham’s answer says it all: “And he said to him, If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even though one rose from the dead” (Luke 16:31). Here we see that the witness of the Scriptures is sufficient for salvation for those who believe it, and no other revelation will bring about salvation to those who do not. No second, third or fourth chances would be enough to turn the heart of stone into a heart of flesh.

Philippians 2:10-11 declares “that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” One day, everyone will bow before Jesus and recognize that He is the Lord and Savior. At that point, though, it is too late for salvation. After death, all that remains for the unbeliever is judgment (Revelation 20:14-15). That is why we must trust in Him in this life."

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/second-chance-salvation.html#ixzz3O8e95SY7

Where do you get the idea that there's a second chance to repent in the afterlife? Let's be honest, faced with a clear choice between eternal suffering in Hell and eternal peace in Heaven, do you think ANYONE would fail to utter the words "God forgive me"?

Most Christians consider death to be the end of all chances, so it would be impossible for Leelah to repent, meaning she's only in one place according to your fairytale.

 

..he wanted to.



Blaming Christians, parents, me, and everyone else I have seen you blame doesn't affect reality.

 

and that right there is a perfect example of the vitriol spewed by those pushing the deviant sexual lifestyle

it's the fault of everyone else

thanks for the honesty. At least you were willing to state what others are trying to dance around from saying

 

we do not cease brain function immediately
it takes a nanosecond
this boy was a troubled lad with serious mental issues. If he was mentally incompetent then God already has him

If he was competent to understand his decision, then he could have thought the words and again, God would be holding him today

 

What she did was totally selfish and she should not be martyred in any way. Put aside the whole debate about whether or not suicide is selfish. She jumped in front of a truck. Imagine the sadness and guilt the truck driver feels about what he did. And what if he swerved to avoid her and hit somebody else? It wouldve been her fault.

 

When you see the vitriole and hatred of the homophobes.....especially the SELF-hatred (projected outward) from those who are homophobic but who themselves are closeted homosexuals....

and imagine a teenager who is gay or transgender....but raised to believe that being gay or transgender is "an abomination" and "evil".....then such stories are bound to occur.

Plus you see the outpouring of "sympathy" for her from some here....further showing that hatred.

 

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I agree and disagree

we as a people need to be able to rise above nonsense and see it for what it is.

I support the right of people to say that being born a boy does not mean that you're a boy. Yes, it's utter nonsense but they have the right to say it.

Why do some people become alcoholics, drug addicts, gambling addicts, smokers, homosexual etc?

I believe that some have a form of imbalance which makes them susceptible to nonsense and succumbing to harmful activities.

I will never support the silencing of groups who have an opinion different from mine.

 

Brilllliant! Just Brilliant! Is that the most salient aspect of this story?

 

I'm not sure what you disagree with.
I would never support a silencing of free speech.

My point was that enabling someone who has problems, only makes the problems worse.

Sure they have a right to do so... it's just sad that they do it, and then sit in online forums defending it, while blaming everyone else.

 

then we're in violent agreement

i thought that you were hinting toward silencing dissenting opinions. That is the path be taken by the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ movement

 

Yes, one of the things I hate most about them.

I'm a fan of free speech and stand against anyone who tries to stifle it.

It's just speech.

 

THIS is unconditional love and acceptance

 

if that worked for them, great. I'll pray that their son does not become one of the 41%er's

 

What if their son becomes one of the 61%?

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage/

 

I'm a Free Speech Purist.....even more so for bigots.

After all, if they aren't allowed to spew their hatred....how would we recognize them? The Klan or the virulent homophobes should have the right to speak...and speak loudly....and thus, show the world what they are. Not let them hide it in the shadows.

Plus, often they expose more than their hatred of others.....they expose their hatred of themselves.

 

Why are you being so sarcastic with me? im making a good point.

 

Because you didn't pick up the gay pom-poms and start cheering.

You dared to point out the other side of this tragic story.
The selfishness of this spiteful little boy, and the cowardice that caused him to permanently scar the lives of others.

That poster doesn't care about the truck driver or the other witnesses. That's why he responded the way he did.

 

Actually, these people who are blaming this suicide on the parents.... would have to lay the blame of all collateral death and damage on the parents also.

This boy didn't jump in front of a truck.... apparently society pushed him.


Homophobic, bigoted truck driver be damned. He's partly to blame.

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You are pushing a far more deviant lifestyle. One where you erase morality in favor for obedience. So Mr. pot stop calling the kettle black.