With 58,000 dead, pandemic becomes Trump's Vietnam — in just six weeks

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Source?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    But there is something racist about stopping flights from China?

    VOTE DP FOR ECONOMIC SHUTDOWNS, OPEN BORDERS, AND POVERTY!

    When will they ever learn?
     
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    Anti-American NORK/DP propaganda is not any more convincing that CCP/DP anti-American propaganda.
     
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    look like death rate likely much higher

     
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    VOTE DP TO EXTEND YOUR HOUSE ARREST!

    That one would obviously work for a certain kind of voter. ;-)
     
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    They won't, just look at who their best is running for President.......Always confused Joe. That "town hall" was embarrassing.
     
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    Were that true...there would have been a huge outbreak in San Fran. There wasn't

    But Trump held rallies in Feb and MARCH...even though he claims he knew it was a deadly pandemic as far back as January
     
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    "The man, 35, had been visiting family in Wuhan. He flew into Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on January 15, two days before flights from China's Hubei province began being funnelled through three US airports that could screen passengers for signs of illness. . .

    When he got home, he developed a dry cough and low fever and, having read news of the new coronavirus, promptly visited an urgent care clinic. The Snohomish Health District sent samples to the Centres for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta for testing.

    The results came back positive. So Addison got the call, and her team got busy [opening the new-fangled isolation unit that Providence hospital had received for potential Ebola cases in 2015].

    Five days in, the man's condition started to worsen. On the sixth day, he had to be given oxygen, and a lung X-ray showed he was developing pneumonia.

    After discussions with doctors at the CDC and the patient, [Dr.] Diaz got approval from the Federal Drug Administration to administer an experimental antiviral drug called remdesivir.

    The patient's fever went away the day after treatment, and he began feeling better."

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/uni...onavirus-patient-who-was-worlds-first-treated

    And so it began in January with the first diagnosed and confirmed case of covid-19 in the USA who went home from the hospital in Everett, WA, by February. By a stroke of luck and the GENIUS OF ONE INDIVIDUAL PHYSICIAN the very first covid-19 patient recovered using Remdisivir.

    And so I'm calling skunk-focked bullshit on the FDA, which fiddle-farted around with an unpragmatic outlook until today deciding about Remdesiver, while over 60,000 corona patients died.

    Science is not working for the good of the people.
     
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    I found a link to the story I was talking about;

    Dr. Birx Calls Out Reporter's Incorrect Stats, Trump Snaps When He Hears the Real Numbers

    “Mr. President, overall South Korea has done five times more tests than the U.S. per capita,” Walker said. “Why is that?”

    “I don’t think that’s true,” the president said, before asking Walker what news agency he represents.

    “To our Yahoo gentleman, I just want to make it clear that South Korea’s testing was 11 per 100,000,” Birx said, “and we’re at 17 per 100,000.”


    Like I said, these reporters don't stop to do actual journalism, which includes doing the leg work required to verify information until they get to the facts. Nope, they want to find information that will, in their minds, make Trump look bad, and then in typical knee-jerk fashion they run with whatever they find, facts and the truth be damned, making Trump look bad is singularly important.

    Trump's press conferences are full of these misinformed reporters, all piling on Trump and his admin to try and discredit, defame, cause strife within the administration, and cause distrust withing the population.
     
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    Trump bad. That is the first assumption and cardinal operating rule of "journalists."
     
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    I know, right?

    Not one president we have had, to include Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump, was a medical professional. Our presidents rely on the advice of our experts working in the CDC, NIH, HHS, etc... All they ever do in times like this is fall back on the science and medical advice and opinions provided to them by those experts. So when Trump was seen to be "making light" of this virus, it was because his experts were doing it as well. Fauci was saying the virus was nothing to be worried about, and the virus was a very low risk to the US population, Trump only repeated those opinions publicly.

    I think that after four months of Brix and Fauci always underestimating the threat of this virus, or over exaggerating the virus, he is now seeking other experts to add their opinions. Clearly, only taking the advice from Brix and Fauci is not working out so well. Listening to these two doctors from one week to the next, is like being in a car driven by a 15 year old who doesn't know how to use a clutch; we are getting whiplash.
     
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    Maybe worse than whiplash: stumpknocker's neck.
     
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    Exactly. Getting out dirt on Trump is preeminent. Once a false story that damages Trump is published, it's already a part of the urban mythos, and any corrections will fall on a tiny minority who will just ignore it anyway. This is how fake news like Trump-Russia collusion can last for three years. It's all just false assumptions on top of lies, and the average American cannot dig thru all the false stories and headlines, to separate the lies from the truth. Our news media has turned into a sewer, where the truth and lies are all flushed down the same toilet, and it becomes very difficult to pick out the truth from the filth.

    Reporter: "Look at this, I think it makes Trump look bad. Should I research it to see if it's true?"

    Editor: "Nope, just run with it. If it turns out to be fake news, we will bury a correction somewhere, and no one will see it anyway."
     
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    Biden has served his purpose. He made it possible for the DP to rig its primaries and nomination process to eliminate Sanders. Now the party bosses can rig the convention to replace Biden, or use sexual assault charge to kick Joe to the curb even sooner.
     
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    Baloney, we now know that SF and Santa Clara County had been hit hard before the social distancing started. We also know, thanks to those LW Stanford researchers that the mortality rate for the CCP/DP Wuhan Coronavirus is much lower than all the hype led us to believe.

    We are all the victims of Fake Science/Fake News.
    Liberate yourself - go outside and smell the flowers.
     
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    Back to the blue hazed room?
     
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    Nothing was rigged. Nice try. Biden got more votes
    Not even Sanders is making that nonsensical claim
     
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    Those censored doctors in Bakersfield and the Stanford Lefties who did the antibody research would be a good for a start.
     
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    What we’ve had... is months of Trumpers misrepresenting what Fauci and others have said
    Ya know... to cover for Trump’s abject failure
     
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    He should make sure to never be alone with the DNC party bosses.
     
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    Still waiting for you to tell us, absent the benefit of hindsight, what Trump should have done, when, and why.
    Odd how you continue to avoid this.
     
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    In fact the early primaries were rigged to take away Sanders momentum.
    Everyone knows the DP rigs its nomination process. Why deny the obvious?
     
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    Well you better let Sanders know...because he hasn't said any such thing.

    How exactly do you "rig" a primary by the way?
     
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    Did tell you...and I'll tell you again

    Trump should have
    Shut down travel from Europe when hs shut it down from China...and not JUST the Schengen region which he did six weeks later...all of it

    Made proper arrangements for those Americans returning from overseas so that they weren't crammed into airports in lines for hours shoulder to should chest to back

    Actually quarantined those returning travelers...all of them

    Gotten WORKING tests ready for testing...in the kind of quantities needed to address a pandemic (which he claims he understood was coming as far back as January)

    Secured masks, ventilators and PPE

    Been HONEST with the American people

    He did NONE of that
     

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