How Biden opposed gay rights for 50 YEARS after his high school 'epiphany' when he saw two men kissi

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  1. jcarlilesiu

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    First, you have to establish the minority is persecuted, before any sub-sequent action can be "good" or "bad". In all honesty, I think the left wing agenda in response perceived persecution is far more damaging.

    I realize that you think very highly of your opinions, but that doesn't make them superior or absolute.
     
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    LGBTQ people are absolutely persecuted.

    It’s not my opinion that good can be measured by objective standards. It’s a fact.

    For instance, it is objectively good when people do not starve to death. Would you agree?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting post. Wonder when other sexual perversions will be no big deal. They are working on quite a few. I also would like to know exactly who is "everyone"? Remember when I was young it only applied to who was seen as my "peers". I don't view the gender confused as my "peers". Also I don't view the "woke" as my peers. There are a lot of us that feel that way. I see homosexuality as a "behavior" not a person. I see ALL persons as having intrinsic value, but not all behaviors are beneficial. In fact, I believe those who promote such behaviors as having "evil intent".
     
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    LBGTQ++++ are not people or individuals. They are "behaviors". As far as behaviors are concerned, we could probably find letters of the entire alphabet. Because we now see individuals who "identify" by their behaviors, the "woke" wants to paint them as victims and their behaviors are to be embraced. I will never buy that.
     
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    Christians are not people or individuals. They are behaviors. As far as behaviors are concerned, we could probably find any number of religions. Because we now see individuals who "identify" by their behaviors, the "religious" wants to paint them as victims and their behaviors are to be embraced. I will never buy that.
     
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    Obamacare negatively impacted mr big time, I mean huge.
     
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    Not sure that’s relevant enough to the thread to bother discussing.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow. I reread your post several times and couldn't make sense of it. So you don't like Christian behavior? I try to behave as Christ would have me....but I don't see myself as a victim.
     
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    Biden has gone from telling whoppers to creating bogus notes sent to him by kids he probably wants to sniff.

    In the letter I don’t see a crease from it being folded. No doubt this is fake, no lie.

    Biden Mocked for Tweeting ‘Super Real, Totally Not Fake’ Letter From a Child About Equal Pay

    President Biden tweeted a handwritten letter he allegedly received from a little girl asking him to “fix” the gender wage gap Tuesday. The internet scorched him for it, with many suggesting it was fake.

    A screenshot of the error-riddled letter read, “Dear Presitent Biden: I just wanted to tell something not fair to ladies. Men are getting more money then girls. I think you should fix this. Since your the presitent. Even I’m a child and I think we should do something.”

    Biden responded by praising the letter allegedly written by “Charlotte,” tweeting:

    “Charlotte, I couldn’t agree more. Women lose thousands of dollars each year, and hundreds of thousands over a lifetime, because of gender and racial wage gaps,” he wrote. “I’m committed to building an economy where my daughters have the same rights and opportunities as my sons.”


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    https://resistthemainstream.com/bid...ly-not-fake-letter-from-child-about-wage-gap/
     
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    It was an answer to your question.
     
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    Biden won as the Anti-Trump nominee. No more, no less. Democrats didn't and don't care what he believes.
     
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    Sure, you don't understand or you don't like, as evil, yet in the previous sentence, they have "intrinsic value".

    I don't care what other people do, and I sure as heck don't get upset over it either.
     
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    President Biden actually used the word epiphany in his first sentence to a question asked by Kal Penn.

    The following Biden “quotes” are snippets from a video that is provided in the link below.
    So anyone who is interested can watch and listen to the video to verify the following snippets.

    “I can remember exactly where my epiphany was.” “I hadn’t thought much about it, to tell you the truth.”

    After Biden saw the men give each other a kiss and walk away in different directions…

    Biden said, “I’ll never forget. I turned and looked at my dad, he said Joey, it’s simple.” “It’s simple, they love each other.” “It’s simple.”
    “No, I’m not joking, it’s simple they love each other.”

    The “I’m not joking” part is a bit confusing? Did his Dad say that to him? or Did Biden say that to Kal Penn?

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...nt-joe-biden-lgbt-rights-kal-penn-1235349225/

    The reason I’m confused is President Biden uses the “joke” word quite often.

    Here is one Example Link among many …
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-a-democratic-national-committee-reception-4/

    Snippets of “Quotes” from His Speech Titled: “Remarks by President Biden at a Democratic National Committee Reception”

    President ~ “No, I’m not joking.”
    President ~ “No, for, no kidding. It’s a fact.”
    President~ “Not a joke”
    Audience Member ~ “No joke”
    President ~ “No, not a joke” “This is serious stuff” (Subject:Global Warming)

    Last snippets I found kind of interesting…

    “So, there’s so much at stake, but there’s so much opportunity. We have to remember one thing: We’re the United States of America. There’s nothing — I mean this — nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together. Nothing. Nothing.”

    “Am I — asked me what I wanted to do to change the attitude of the American people, I said, “Cure cancer.” And they looked at me — “Why?” Because Americans began to lose faith that we can do big things. Well, guess what? I got $5 billion, and we’re about to cure some cancers. (Applause.) No, I mean it.”

    If anyone has Watched the series “West Wing” Will remember…The episode when President Jedediah Bartlett wanted to use the “Cure Cancer” idea in his one of his speeches. But he decided not to use that idea.
     
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    I was mocking your post by comparing it to something that is widely considered to be an identity. The fact that you couldn’t make sense of it is an indictment or your original post.

    Do you believe that people aren’t Christians? I’d imagine they’d take issue with that stance.
     
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    A question that was posed to another poster in a context not relevant to your answer. Go away.
     
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    Nothing whatsoever!
     
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    Are they though?

    If you go looking for a problem, you're probably going to find it.

    Most of the issues today are fabricated to find a solution so people feel valuable. Especially the younger generations that need some cause to pursue, because quite honestly they have it too easy.

    I would agree with you that death from starvation is bad. I would disagree with you on most of the fabricated first world problems you rally around.
     
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    Let's look at the "rights" listed in the article you cite:

    "The slate of legislation includes measures that would restrict LGBTQ issues in school curriculums",

    [A little vague; I don't know specifically what these issues are, but I doubt the my ever had the rights they claim are being taken away]

    permit religious exemptions to discriminate against LGBTQ people

    [Let's first remember that freedom of religion is an explicit right in the constitution, I say it trumps "gay and trans rights." But an example is state-licensed child welfare agencies may refuse ( in these "bad" states) to place and provide services to children and families, including LGBTQ people and same-sex couples, if doing so conflicts with their religious beliefs. This doesn't bother me in rhe slightest. ]


    The slate of legislation includes measures that would limit trans people’s ability to play sports,

    [This is just false. What they won't allow is boys to compete against girls. All kids can play on teams whose members have rhe same genitalia. It's really easy]

    use bathrooms that correspond with their gender identity

    [So what?. We don't want any swinging dicks in little girls' restrooms. They don't have the roght to be in there in the first place]


    and receive gender-affirming health care.

    [That's so funny! Let them grow up first before tampering with nature,for Pete's sake]
     
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    Well that last one is a loaded question. The word Christian is derived from the Greek , Christos which was a name given to "followers of Christ". So with that definition I would say many are Christian. On the other hand Christian could also mean members of a certain religion. They are not necessarily followers of Christ, but a member of a "religion". To follow Christ, you must first believe in Him. If you believe in Him it requires faith. You are not effective in "mocking" people of faith in Christ because Christ Himself was mocked while He was walking on the earth. We are not immune from what our Master suffered and we realize that. We are not victims but "overcomers".
     
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    Maybe you don't have children or couldn't give a hoot about the children of others that have to live in this "changing" world. Perhaps you have no moral anchor and could care less as to the welfare of future generations. Perhaps you would have a different feeling if you had drag queens gyrating in a thong in front of a couple of five year olds you cared about.
    It's not that I am upset in anyway. It's probably others that get upset because I voice my opinion and they think I go against what they describe as "everybody" ....so it must be o.k.
     
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    I think I recognized Kamala's handwriting.
     
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    Yep, and as a result we get page after page of people who are opposed to gay rights just straight out trolling. Welcome to the cesspit that is American conservatism.
     
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    I guess the sentiments of “So what?” and “I approve.” are more honest than an outright denial.
     
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    Wasn’t mocking Christians. I was mocking your post.

    Believing a thing or going to church; these are behaviors. Your initial post would suggest that you can’t identify as your behaviors.

    If you agree that people can be christian, it seems weird that you’d take issue with the idea that people can be lesbian, gay, bi, etc.
     
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    Do you also agree that it is bad that in most states, a person can be fired for their sexual orientation or gender identity? That landlords can deny housing on those same merits?
     

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