How Biden opposed gay rights for 50 YEARS after his high school 'epiphany' when he saw two men kissi

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    In all fairness Democrats in those days were not as friendly as they pretend to be with the LGBT today. Currently I think they are just using them and mostly just the T though they are moving away from that now


     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    What kind of cope is this?
     
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    My thoughts exactly. I think I touched on that above.
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    The Democrats use minority groups as wedge issues to divide us. If they are for them, the others are naturally against them. It's all about pandering to them for their votes. Nothing more. The smart people have caught on and are leaving the party for this very reason. As a woman, it's the reason I left. Hillary, the feminist, the great champion of women who should all be believed, my rearend. What a joke. That's when I started to really pay attention to how the Democrats create wedge issues, pandering to minorities, gays, people of color. Not because they care about them but because they want to win their votes forever.
     
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    I accept that you have nothing left. Your concession is noted.:truce:
     
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    Biden's such a liar, and the lapdog interviewer, knows he's a liar, but is so pleased that Biden nearly produced a coherent sentence that nearly applauds.

    DeSantis Fires Back After Biden Advocates Trans Mutilation for Kids

    Biden claims that opposing mutilation of children is 'sinful'.

    “It is not ‘sinful’ to prohibit the mutilation of minors,” DeSantis said in a Tuesday morning tweet. “It is not acceptable for the federal government to mandate that procedures like sex change operations be allowed for kids.”

    Biden and some crazed Leftists want to mandate child mutilation? Nationally? I predict that won't pass the House, and very likely, it won't even pass the Democrat Senate.

    Biden maintains that not destroying children in the grips of a fad is 'cruel'.

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    'The Florida governor was responding to Biden’s remarks on the Florida medical board banning transgender surgeries, hormones, and puberty blockers for children. Biden, speaking to former Obama aide Kal Penn on The Daily Show, suggested that the state’s efforts to protect children are “cruel.”'

    Biden's a noted idiot, slanderer, liar and thoroughly bribed.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden seems to have a colorful story for every occasion.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well these days they are saying men make better women.
     
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    truth is the mother of all hatred.
    So Biden breaking the record is good?
    Why not just have an executive that isn't an authoritarian? I don't think I've ever seen the supreme court have to bitch slap a president more.

    Also to do understand roe v Wade was undermined by the ACA? when something is publicly funded you no longer have the right to privacy.
     
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    What rights do LGBT people seriously face losing right now?
     
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    You misunderstood me. What I was saying was that 20 years ago, give or take, everyone on all sides of the aisle was opposed to same sex marriage, and through their words and deeds, they proved that. It's OK to say that I've changed my mind about somethig that I once felt differently about, but for him to say seeing two dudes kissing in high school (considering he graduated in '61, an event that I doubt even happened) caused him to change his position runs counter to things he said and did up until the 2010s.

    The thing with Biden, well one of them anyway, is from time to time he will choose to lie, when the truth sounds better. People who graduated HS in '61 were typically at least, raised in an environment where homosexuality (and bisexuality) was seen my virtually everyone as a sin against gawd, and while I laugh at people in 2023 who think such things, it was almost universal back then. That's simply a fact.

    Even leftist politicians didn't start singing a different tune on that until about the same time Biden did, the 2010s, along with many non-politicians as well. That's when I came around on the topic, though in my case it was more of a 'this is how things have ever been, so there's nothing to discuss or debate about it', which isn't exactly demonstrative of giving it a lot of thought.

    But I'm willing to admit that, and in my case anyway, my belief change is real, though I cannot put a date on it. Old people are generally pretty set in their ways, and if he has genuinely come around on that issue, good for him, but color me skeptical. I think it's at least just as likely that he says what he feels like he has to say, while complaining about how hedonistic society has become during his golden years.

    I cannot even imagine my grandparents, or even my parents, ever coming around on those points, though they may have said so in public. My parents, with my grandparents generation, that simply was not up for debate.
     
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    The right to gyrate in front of children wearing nothing but a thong.
     
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    You could just declare your stance on the gay rights issue.

    Are you for, or against?

    The right to wear bikini / thong might be taken away next. One-piece swim gear only, like it was in the good old days and still is in muslim countries. .
     
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    never too late to change... republicans... take note, you can support equal rights too
     
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    That is exactly what the Left wants you to think is next, but is completely and utterly untrue. That is what brainwashing involves. The Left has done a great job brainwashing their followers by making them think the worst. You should know better than to actually think that could actually happen. I am disappointed in you, seriously. I thought you were smart.
     
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    I have to ask though, knowing the following:
    • All politicians lie.
    • You can’t know a person’s thoughts; only their words and actions.
    • Biden currently supports the LGBTQ community and their rights.
    Why does any of this matter? I think it’s great that you came around on the subject. Truly. If Biden, for some political reason, feels the need to tell an unfalsifiable lie, what’s the big deal? I don’t care how people come to the decision to do good or how they justify it.
     
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    You’re not really asking this question, are you? State legislatures have been going hard in the paint with anti-LGBTQ legislation over the past couple years. There is an active and concerted effort that does not show any signs of slowing in the immediate future.
     
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    I think the premise is not a single lie, but lying every other time he speaks. Is that the impression you think is fine for children to learn that it is ok to lie as long as "some" actions are good?
     
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    This is an ignorant comment.
     
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    I would not know. Unlike you I do not lap up every word "the left" utters.

    I live in Florida so I am an eye witness to authoritarian government at work. I do not need to listen to anyone to see what is happening. The FL government is using their authority and their contracts with corporations and liquor licenses to punish those who refuse to support their political agenda. If there was a gun licensing requirement, they'd use that against the people too.

    Sure. Same to you, but it was a long time ago.
     
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    Not at all.

    The only good lies are ones that have positive outcomes.
     
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    But, it is true.
     
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    Feel free to explain.
     
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    Anyone who actually thinks wearing a thong to the beach is in jeopardy just because DeSantis banned Trans people from dancing sexually in thongs in front of children must be absolutely brainwashed and clueless in regards to reality.

    Lastly, in no shape or form should anyone be allowed to sexually dance in front of children wearing only a thong.
     
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    His lie is not unfalsifiable, though. The part about seeing two dudes kiss in high school, yes, you are correct, even though I stand by my opinion that it never happened, because back in the 50s, those sorts of things were kept behind closed doors, and even there it was technically a crime. That, too, has changed for the better.

    And, yes, I am painfully aware that the best way to know that a politician is lying is to see their lips moving, but when he makes a statement like this, when saying nothing at all would have been a better strategy, he deserves to get called out for it. He served in the Senate for 45 years, and during that time made no effort to legalize same-sex marriage, or to decriminalize same-sex activities, even those done in private, and I believe he even voted against their interests, especially with regards to DOMA, and who knows what else a detailed study of his Senatorial record might find.

    I would respect him much more if he said he didn't use to think gay marriage was appropriate, but came around to the idea and changed his mind, than coming up with some bullshit that he's thought that ever since the late 50s, but never did the first damn thing about it for 40 years, and then the Supreme Court did it for him.

    It's just like all his trash talking about the 'MAGA Republicans' (as though that was a singular phrase) wanting to cut social security and Medicare when there is video of he himself saying the same damn thing not all that long ago when he was 'just' a Senator. He doesn't make trends, he doesn't have original ideas, he's just a kite floating in the breeze, doing whatever the mob of the day tells him to do, unless it's politically expedient not to.
     
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    Now, let your children use that the next time they total your car!

    It was the woman in the road, not the booze! That is ok son as long as you are ok and the police believe that . . .
     
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