How Biden opposed gay rights for 50 YEARS after his high school 'epiphany' when he saw two men kissi

Take a look at what I quoted and my source, Gallup, I provided above. It tells us what "people" think and nothing about what I think.

 

With politicians it's after there is a shift in where the political value is. He now believes this is the politically safe position to take.

 

I did, and I responded to it. It says people thought a conservative majority SC was too liberal, but still held it high regard. Is that a problem? But this is about the SC approval taking a nose dive starting around 2018

 

I worked with gay people in the 70s, in the Deep South. Nobody cared.

 

What people have an issue with is the characterization of drag as being inherently sexual. It's not!

I think I can say with some certainty that the last thing most gay men (the most common audience for drag) would find "sexual" would be an obvious man, pretending to be a woman parading around in a ridiculously overt dress. It's comedy, a parody, a send up!

 

But a lot of Christians do see themselves as victims when the law refuses to allow their beliefs to police the lives of others who do not believe accordingly.

 

Par exemple?

 

Gay marriage and gay adoption are the most recent examples along with many trans laws that go against medical organizations, prior to that we had interracial marriage, prohibition on alcohol — some can argue it isn’t religious in nature but abortion is another good example.

While not a law the most recent hilarious example is when “Christmas was under attack” because Starbucks had festive cups! Ignoring the irony that Jesus wasnt born in December and the entire holiday is the stolen pagan festival of Saturnalia.

 

Do you see it that way because you would deny our voice? As an evangelist Christian, I see it as my responsibility to speak up for my faith when it is questioned.I don't see it my responsibility to "convert". As an American citizen I see it as my responsibility to make my voice heard. Sorry that some woke see that as a threat. I don't think it is a good thing for public schools to teach children that LBGTQ+++ are viable alternative lifestyles. In fact, I don't see that as a subject coming under the heading of education.
Not a victim. Just making my voice heard. Children are the real victims of this "woke " experiment.

 

The hilarious thing is that although you are correct about the incorrect date, the real burr under your saddle is the fact it calls attention to Jesus, His mission, and the relationship He has desired for humankind.

 

Too bad many of the people that profess to worship him make everyone else want to avoid the entire religion. “Not hate like christian love” is a fairly popular saying and looking at religious affiliation declines it looks to be impacting membership.

It’s interesting that you took a comment about people and twisted into me being offended by Jesus. Jesus had a wonderful message. I think Jesus would be cast out of many circles today that claim to support him if he came back and went by another name.

Why do you think so many feel that evangelicals are some of the most vile and judgmental people they encounter on a regular basis especially seeing that their religion seems to preach the opposite?


I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. - unknown

 

In the following comments you have made, note the use of the word "religion". You claim to know something "about " Him, like a lot of unbelievers.....but you don't know Him. You don't worship Him or acknowledge who He is. Religion is mankind's effort to replace who He is. Faith is just acknowledging who He is and taking it at face value. This definition is shown time in and time again in the scriptures and it scares the crap out of you. It steals the control you think you have.

Because it flies in the face of your RELIGION whether that is "secular" or "denominational".

Here again, you claim to know Christ better than those who worship Him. I have seen that as quite typical.

 

I am talking about people who profess to worship him. Nothing to do with any supernatural beings but the humans that ignore the words of the religion they claim to follow.

Religious people not following the words of Jesus while demanding others follow their made up rules has nothing to do with either of those.

Be honest with yourself
If a brown person was a major figure that demanded everyone love one another, not to cast judgment, that the poor and the immigrants should be cared, fed, clothed and homed, that the homosexuals and prostitutes should not be judged but should be treated as any other — you would support this person?

I have seen the filth in your posts, the condemnation and hate. You cannot honestly sit there and say you would. You likely will though. Which is the point of my post.

Again, my issue isn’t with Jesus or God or Allah — it’s with their followers.

 

It has been said that while Jesus walked the earth He dined with Publicans and sinners. Undoubtedly He also could have included homosexuals in that category. The difference is, they changed......they didn't change Him. Which I know you would attempt to do. Jesus proclaimed we could come out of our filth, not lie in it as you would prefer. You bring skin color into the equation which is typical. Followers of Christ look at a persons soul, not their skin color. Something you have not been able to do.

 

Of course you have issues with those who seek God instead of yourself. You pretend you are without fault. Keep believing that.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/religion-philosophy.46/

 

said the clay to the potter.

 

No, I have issues with people that use God as a personal weapon to attack people they don’t like.

I have never pretended I am without fault as I have many, but one of my faults isn’t dodging questions because they make me feel uncomfortable as you continue to do.

I guess the answers are more revealing than you would like to admit.

Understandable.

 

Yet every image I have ever seen of Jesus is a white man. Sure.

You didn’t answer the question

Did he command that people like you use his name to attack or condemn others?

 

Show me once where I have attacked or condemned others. I too, like you, are a part of the culture. I too have a say in shaping it and certain behaviors are not edifying to our children..
Yes, I too have seen a lot of images of Jesus as a "white man". I am not, however disturbed in the least when I have seen Jesus portrayed as black as the ace of spades.
Historically speaking, His incarnate body was probably somewhere in between. The Book of Isaiah has our only description of Him and states He was nothing special to look at (in my own words). I guess His physical appearance is of very little importance. What is important is that every human being can understand that Jesus gave His body as a sacrifice so that ALL could be rectified to Him.

 

It’s certainly comedy and entertainment, but it is also sexual. Depends on the show, but we’re seeing more and more videos of all-ages drag shows being sexual. Sorry but it ain’t Disney Princess Disney skits in the Magic Kingdom. There’s grinding, grabbing, jokes, language, less and less clothing, ect.

We’ve got videos, which is why the pressure is building. We can all see it with our own eyes. It’s not innocent by any means. Drag story hour is “fine” if you’re OK with the concept of a dude, looking like a the most over-stereotyped woman ever, reading to your kids. I generally would say it’s unnecessary, since it’s an attempt at normalizing that behavior which should NEVER be normalized. It’s a fetish. A fetish should be kept in adult places and exposing young kids to sexual fetishes, is not appropriate. Cross dressing is that. A sexualized fetish, a man playing the part of a woman. And that identity isn’t just a job at night or weekends. For most it becomes what they are. It’s no longer Bruce Wayne putting the suit on. The suit is always on now and we’re supposed to stand there and go, “OK, you’re fine standing there dressed as a bat man, not crazy at all” No. we’re thinking WTF is wrong with you. And there is something wrong. And the issue is Democrats forcing EVERYONE to just stand there and accept that it’s fine. It’s not fine. If Bruce showed up at his board meeting as Batman, think the corporation would go under That's what Democrats are doing. They want everyone to look at Batman, knowing what he does, and say, that's perfectly fine. You’re a sane individual, with a perfectly fine grasp on reality. Hehe. There would be no Wayne Enterprises without Bruce. Batman can’t run the organization because….Psssst! Batman was NOT fine. He was always crazy as ****. Bruce could keep it together temporarily at least. But Democrats don’t even want Bruce anymore. They want Batman out there all the time, the dude with major mental issues in schools, in govt, running things. If you can’t see how that’s a recipe for disaster, don’t know what to tell you.

 

Yep, it's always a winning argument to compare real life to a comic book.

 

But think about what drag queens are? You don’t see the comedy in a guy dressing up as the most flashy, over dramatized version of what a woman is? That’s why they exist you know. Really Think. Getting away from straight up drag queens who are designed as ENTERTAINMENT characters, look at the most popular Trans individual out there right now, Dylan Mulvaney.

If he’s not the most stereotypical queen that ever existed, you haven’t been alive He’s literally THE stereotype of the most gayest guy, encapsulating every nuance, tick, gay mannerism. It’s truly a comic book character played by a literal PERFORMER!! Gay people I know are embarrassed by him because he’s putting on such a show as if it’s serious. You can’t function in regular society being THAT “gay”. He’s turned up to 11 because it’s an act. He knows it and anyone with a brain can see it, unless you truly believe that’s how gay people act in normal life? Give me a break. I work with a good number of professional LGBT+ folks and the only time anything close to THAT comes out, is after a few drinks at happy hour, and even then it’s not that far gone

My daughter’s gay male drama friends play the role well. Over exaggerated, always ON, over the top dramatics because its what they SEE and think it’s normal. It’s not. But even they turn it down when they need to. You can’t be on all the time like that. You have to be Bruce Wayne when it requires it.

You understand or is it not getting through yet? Am I being unreasonable, unfair? Think I’m being quite fair and logical, considering my experience being sort of on the outside, but not really. I see it all daily..all sorts and I get it. I hear it. And I certainly see it. We all see it in different quantities. At least my experience isn’t just news or Tiktok.

If the argument is silly please educate me, since I’d love a mature discussion without someone going into hysterics and calling names or making up strawman arguments.

 

It can be but more often than not it isn't.

I'm sure you can find some examples (and I'm pretty sure you will) but I can also show you examples of various other non-drag shows that can be construed as sexual. Why isn't the Secretariat going after those?

I don't think you are in the slightest bit sorry.

Again case-by-case basis. You can't criminalize an entire sector of the entertainment industry on the basis of what some individual might or might not do in front of children. Just think of the ramifications of that for a second. Apply it to another sector and see how it fits.

Nope the pressure is building because social conservatives are still having a hissy fit that same-sex marriage was legalized and they needed to find another target to attack. First it started with bathroom bills against trans people (whom they'd previously always left alone). Then they started mis-conflated drag with trans "cuz they're all them weird alphabet people we don't like" and now they're putting perfectly legitimate performers who've being plying their trade for years out of business.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...rag-show-lewd-liquor-license-complaint-lgbtq/

"But while agents took photos of three minors — who appeared to be accompanied by adults — at the Orlando drag show, they acknowledged that nothing indecent had happened on stage, according to an incident report obtained exclusively by the Miami Herald.

“Besides some of the outfits being provocative (bikinis and short shorts), agents did not witness any lewd acts such as exposure of genital organs,” the brief report stated. “The performers did not have any physical contact while performing to the rhythm of the music with any patrons.”

And yet the Florida Government is trying to have the venue's liquor license revoked on the basis of absolutely nothing at all. Now venues are scared to put on drag acts and people are losing work opportunities they previously enjoyed in case the Secretariat tries to do the same thing to them.

Attempting to shut down venues and put people out of work when the performers have done nothing wrong. How blatantly unamerican!

I think your eyes see what you want them to see. Florida's Government Securitat sent their own sets of eyes to the show listed above and they didn't see squat but the Government Secretariat is still trying to revoke the businesses' liquor license even though they admit they did nothing wrong as witnessed by their own Agents of State.

How blatantly unamerican!

Exactly and absolutely no basis for it to be illegal even if you personally find it distasteful.

Well you're certainly entitled to your own opinion, that's for sure!

Says, you.

Says you without a shred of evidence. If drag was a fetish then its primary audience (gay men) would find it sexual. I think I can say with confidence that gay men aren't turned on by men overdressed as women and smothered in make-up.

If anything, drag is a parody of heterosexuality and maybe that's why it touches a nerve? Can't have those degenerates making fun of us can we (even if we find it a little titilating when they do)?

An extrapolation built on your entirely wonky previous premise.

Now I believe you are being deliberately disingenuous because we've had this conversation before.

Cross-dressing is not drag. Cross dressing is a sexual fetish indulged in almost exclusively by heterosexual men who do get a kick out of wearing women's clothing. It has nothing to do with drag and that is not the purpose or pleasure of drag. You know this because we've discussed it before.

You're good at this. Building entire extrapolations on nothing but a completely wonky previous premise. Heterosexual cross dressing is not the same thing as drag for entertainment or people who are transgender but, if it suits the agenda to demonize all those nasty people as a group then what the heck?

You can think what the neck you like but trying to force people out of business and out of the public arena based merely on your thoughts about then as some kind of collective group is wrong and frankly unamerican!

You can think what the neck you like but trying to force people out of business and out of the public arena based merely on your thoughts about then as some kind of collective group is wrong and frankly unamerican!

Yes I do believe that is the issue. Democrats are the largest voting group. If this country was run on an up-or-down vote (yes, I know it isn't) Democrats would win everytime and their numbers are growing year on year. Witness the Red Wave which turned out to be more of a pink puddle. So, rather than trying to enact some POLICIES that would attract some new and younger voters (without simultaneously hemorrhaging their own more moderate voters), Republicans double down on all this social conservative claptrap that, through their own research, they KNOW the modern electorate does not want!

You don't have to accept anything. If you don't like it just leave the venue! Form an enclave and force the sinners out. This is a huge country, you don't have to be around anyone you disapprove of.

Once again an extrapolation based on a false premise but, even giving that the benefit of the doubt, who's to say that's the case. He's the same person underneath and if he's capable of doing the job in one outfit why shouldn't he be just as capable doing it in another?

Once again there's a heck of a lot of Democrats in this country and their numbers are only rising. A lot of that has little to do with Democratic policies in my opinion.

Now you're just being silly. This is a free country, you can wear whatever you like. The problem seems to be that you don't want to extend that courtesy to others.

The rest of that just falls into the "whatevs" category for me and I can't see how that ever justifies putting long-time entertainers out of business. How unamerican!

 

I think he hates women and deliberately mocks them while pulling in $millions, and women who object will be cancelled as haters, so they need to shut up and take the abuse because not taking it will be worse for them. The classic abuser/abused relationship that women have had to endure for a long long long time, but now it's called 'INCLUSIVE!"

THEY ASSUMED THAT THEIR LITTLE ECHO CHAMBER IS THE NATION: Bud Light distributors ‘spooked’ by backlash to Dylan Mulvaney partnership.

Their customers are revolted by the demeaning mockery of women.



'Bud Light vice president of marketing Alissa Heinerscheid recently said she hoped to update the “fratty” and “out of touch” humor of the beer company and make the brand appeal to younger customers.'



Enjoy your new customers.