How Biden opposed gay rights for 50 YEARS after his high school 'epiphany' when he saw two men kissi

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    Both sides make excuses for their side for lying, but Liberal voters are more staunch defenders of their politicians when they stray from the progressive political path. Allegiance is more important to the left, and that allegiance is why they've been successful in elections IMO.
     
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    Both sides do this. I don’t think either are worse about it than the other. Liberals are shy about criticizing their representatives because they know that creates ammo for opposing political leaders. Conservatives do the same.

    I don’t like this idea that both sides do a thing, but the other side is way worse about it. Feels like making excuses, which in this case, works heavily against your narrative.
     
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    The world or society is always changing. It seems this does make you upset. You can raise your kids your way, and it seems you think your way is best for others too.

    Now in FL, there is a motion to not allow young girls to talk about their periods. Talk about going off the deep end. !!
     
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    It's not an excuse, if it can be seen in reality. Take for example, the Tea Party. A fiscal Libertarian group that arouse in the 2010's. If the GOP had any kind of unity like Liberals did, they would have embraced the Tea Party. But between internal rivalries and a pact signed with the democrats in the House, they basically dampened the tea party movement and ironically in doing so, gave rise to Trump in 2016.

    Liberals, by contrast welcomed in the Squad, poured money into the squad and generally defends even their far-left extremist flank. They are better at it. It's not an excuse, it's the reality on the grounds.
     
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    Dems have the squad. Reps have “MAGA” republicans.

    Dems stamped down Bernie just the same as Reps stamped down the tea party.

    It’s not hard to find examples on both sides.
     
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    But see, I also don't care that other states have rejected these restrictions.

    We have to accept that not everyone shares our values. The alternative is lawless chaos or compelled homogeneity (the opposite of diversity). The people of Florida have the right to say that they don't want to allow hormone treatment for young boys who think they are girls. It's none of California's business, and of course Florida shouldn't tell California what to do either.
     
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    Depends on whose ox is being gored. Is it "good" that an employer has no right to say who can work at a company he created?

    Anyway I've lived in the Deep South my whole life, and even there, gays are not fired only for being gay. It's a complete myth.
     
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    Do you share the value that people should be as free from government restrictions as possible if they are not harming other people?
     
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    If you want to "identify" by your sexual activity, something you do, go ahead. Today you can identify as a unicorn if you want to. I would identify by my faith and you are free to mock me if you'd like.
     
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    You are right. Employers hire and fire on the basis of productivity. Some would say you can't fire one who identifies as being gay because they are already victims.
     
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    The world changes, yes. Things like faith and gravity don't. Now I don't mind girls talking about their periods when appropriate and necessary, but I believe you might get upset if "boys" aren't permitted to talk about their vaginas or periods. That concerns me. We know there are cultures that force those who identify as gay to jump off tall buildings. There are cultures that have living sacrifices in the form of young virgins. Yes the world changes all the time. History has shown that. Human nature has a propensity to change. Many are just to timid to draw the line. Some do, and I think that is what has you so upset.
     
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    An employer has plenty of right to say who works for them. They just aren’t allowed to fire people based on their immutable characteristics. That’s a good thing. Do you think an employer should be able to fire a person because of the color of their skin?

    How would you go about proving that to be a myth exactly? Just your anecdotal experience?
     
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    Stop being a victim. I was mocking your inane post.
     
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    FYI, these kids cell phones also allow them access to a bunch of other unworldly stuff, sorry but your wishes for a 1950s TV show just doesn't match the real world.
     
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    I don't think you have any way of knowing why people are fired. I am sure gays are not fired systematically in the South for being gay, but I'm sure some are fired from companies which are ran by Southern Baptist leaderships who think its necessary thing to do in order to honor God.
     
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    Who gives them cell phones when they are young....you? Are you powerless? Or just go along with the crowd? You can make excuses for anything.

    By the way.....it is not unworldly stuff you are referring to, it is "worldly stuff". This is how the "world" operates. Just call me Ward Cleaver!:oldman:
     
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    It is my choice to play the victim and I don't.
     
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    Most would say that if you take the actions that are ascribed to any of the LBGTQ categories , and compare that to any of the real virtues given to those who follow Christ, that would be mocking Christians. So lets be real here.
     
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    And yet, here you are acting like a victim. Go figure.
     
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    Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Want to try again?
     
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    Interestingly enough, and according to Gallup Polls...
    It's like I wrote above, 'elections have consequences.' :cool:

    Approval of U.S. Supreme Court Down to 40%, a New Low (gallup.com)
     
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    Yes, their approval plummeted starting 2018, because they are more partisan then ever.
     
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    Read above. Seen as more liberal under Obama, a Democratic president, too conservative under a Republican president. Not a difficult concept to understand.
     
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    Do you think Obama was a Supreme Court justice? The SC has has conservative majority for decades, but the approval started to plummet in 2018. Even if people thought it was too liberal before that, they still approved of how they handled the job
     
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    No less than white people who are told they have privilege at birth or are evil because of what others did 100s of years ago.

    LGBTQ+ are actually the most coddled and protected group in this country. They have the MOST advantages available to them.

    Now if “persecuted” means people questioning why a man can walk around in a dress with makeup and a beard in an office, and still be taken seriously, that isn’t persecution.

    I work with plenty of gay people and have never witnessed any sort of persecution, because they’re all progressional and behave according to social standards. Now if someone gay I knew started getting more confrontational at work, political, more flamboyant and stereotypical, that could raise issues. But it’s not because they’re gay, it’s because their behavior has changed and les acceptable. Being gay doesn’t give someone the right to change professional behavior and force those around them to conform to THEIR standards. if someone was to get fired because this individual didn’t conform that’s on the individual NOT the business. But I guarantee any firings are due to confrontation and not, we don’t like you becsuse your gay. Those days are LONG over.

    If you listen to some of these crazies on Tiktok who complain how they can’t get along with coworkers or have trouble finding work, and you look at them…..purple hair, nose rings, loud, excessive makeup, weird clothing, odd pronouns….yeah it’s not because you’re LGBT. It’s just YOU. Irrational, strange behavior is a YOU problem not a societal problem. You conform not the other way around. And if you refuse to conform, that’s a YOU issue. Society doesn’t have to accept whatever standard you’re inventing in your head. If the the REAL authentic you is hard to get along with, confrontational, bizarre to look at, the world should t have to change to accept you. Sorry.
     
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