Why Turkey should be NEVER included EU?

your very welcome

 

these black dressed women are not lebanese, we dont have that dresscode here, this is probably in summer when Khalijis or Gulf tourists come to visit
what do you mean "image problem"? care to elaborate, do you mean its image to the west?

 

What I mean is that not many people know anything about it, e.g. Turkish fruit is connected with Turkey, Dürum or Pita too. Morocco has couscous and the Three Imperial Cities, Egypt has the Pharoes, etc.

Lebanon has the Phoenicans, yes, -- I know they excisted but I don't know anything about them! Except they were good traders, sailors and colonized some lands.

Anyhow, when Lebanon pops up in my mind I think about civil war, Hezbollah, and how they kicked Israel's ass!

 

That is good. Arab women are so beautiful.

 

and your right for a foreigner to see that image, weve been in a 30 year civil war plus occupation, but lebanon has changed alot in the last 20 years, its totally different, like completely different, its like a war never happened, besides people are used to wars here, i for example with many other lebanese used to go clubbing and swimming during the war, we got fed up, and not just that, you see more foreigners in lebanon than lebanese, you should give it a visit, only when its calm haha if your not used to war, but since its calm now, come over youll love it, i could show you many more pics of alleys and stuff in lebanon, the nightlife, the activities etc.. read about lebanon and youll see its the most country with tourists now, and every summer it keeps rising but u have to make sure u book way in advance, we lebanese find it hard to book for anything

we could debate them kicking israels ass all night,but if you consider the death of 1000+ citizens, infrastructure damaged almost all over the country, electricity isnt full here yet since that war, and the country is already being rebuilt after that destruction and the tourist rate that slowed down alot after since thats what the country benefits from mostly, and the loss of 140 hizbulla fighters , compare that to what israel lost, 80 something tanks, like 50 people dead, broken glass, holes in roads, they still are where they are now, and taking into consideration they didnt come to invade but to get back there soldiers, hmmm common im educated enough to know who lost more and who benefit more, they got back there soldiers, we got 400 palestinians back pfft, a full scale destruction of the country for 400 prisoners

 

watch out i could be an extremist and take offence to such talk, nahh i kidd bro, where u from?

 

I am from America. Which looks bad when talking with some people from Arab countries. Atleast that is what I have noticed.

 

no my friend, politics is politics, humans are humans, we accept eachother when treated in a friendly manner, ive been to the US and studied in Texas southern university in Houston, and even lived around California and arizona for sometime before i moved to canada that was 5 years ago from now, and no most people in the arab world are civilized and know how to distinguish, arabs who travelled to the US and europe who interacted with people and learned the culture of those countries learned to differenciate and know the difference, and came home to teach other arabs who didnt have the chance to go about there experience, what the media shows you is different and if you talk to arabs who said they despise americans its probably they are emotionally influenced, its those corrupt leaders who give the west to the arabs as a bad image, thats why you see the wave of uprisings happening in the middle east, people want to live, have a better future and learn about other cultures and people, and people who find americans especially people as enemies are minorities, they do call Americans dumb and ignorant in world politics cause all you care about is partying, having illegitimate children, dont finish highschool, and take more care of animals than human beings (that u treat animals better than humans) which they regard as lame... but that means nothing doesnt mean they hate u or dislike you as american citizens, its just there view of americans, like the west has there own view of arabs as women oppressers, suicide bombers, and there religion is religion of war, you know, theyr all sort of useless, when someone is controling your country not the way you want them to whoever the leader is, and gives its citizens the bad image

 

WEll this gives me a bit more courage to go to Middle East someday. I do plan on visiting UAE someday before I die, if Gd allows it. I have an Arab friend from there and they are very cool.

And Abu Dhabi is so beautiful.

 

you sure you mean abu dhabi not dubai, dubai is tourist place, dubai is the beauty, dubai is the nightlife, the skycrapers, the state where its people from different backgrounds and nations, i always hear people saying they wanna go to dubai not abu dhabi

 

Yes, I am sorry I ment Dubai.

I am very sorry about that. I must be mixed up.

 

Even I, an acknowledged political obsessive and history buff, also think of food and music.

They've some very drinkable wines, too - although either it's rather expensive, or more likely only the expensive stuff gets imported into Britain.

 

they are expensive here too

 

you dont know what you talk abaout.do you went for visit t o Turkey yet so to know what is the country? Turkey want to b e in EU they should do this but not for reason you say. anyway,so what advantage is to be member of EU? Slovenia want the EU so they can have the euro. the krona is almost notheing now with the euro abaout 1.3 to US dollar. Norway is smart not to want to join EU. Anna Lindh befojr she die say that the country will loose the identity when join the EU. she is right,endast we loose more then the identity but dignity also with thiis.

 

you know what you hate us, we hate you, so i say lets cut the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and get on with it.

i m serious, lets convince our governments to basically "bring it on"

i m waiting with my rifle, let me know

 

lol you want to wage a jihad on there ass with your rifle, im not moching you, it just sounded funny, i think we should put you both in a wrestling ring and fight it out on payperview hell in a cell match

 

Norway has an identity now? If Norway ever had a bit of dignity, they lost it after starting to bomb Libya.

 

Can we make a Norwegian Viking boat vs. Turkish galley battle out of it

 

I was half seriously half joking with that msg but seriously, sometimes it pisses me off when i see whiny westerners here, complaining about Turkey for stuff they have no clue about.
and then i say it outloud, do what ever you can, convince your governments to do what ever they can, let the talking stop and lets see you whiny westerners "on the pitch"
come on, bring it on. when will you say "i m done talking its time for action"
or are you people just tough on the keyboard?

 

turk, know one thing, our religion is growing and spreading by means of peace, whether they like to believe it or not, thats why they fight it with agression and it backfires in there faces, they know using the most modern technological weapon doesnt win you anything but does the contrary, yet they say we cry when our people cry from bombs, oh well i guess we should be like them and have no feelings when innocents die and just be like oh theyr just another human being, but unfortunately we are emotional and this is know about arabs, those radical westerners cant fight islam and theyr trying there best and thats why theyr getting out of control, the more they kill of us we become martyrs and the more our numbers double, something they dont understand, they have to come to terms with respecting this religion and working on understanding it instead of there hatred towards it, cause we are getting places and theyr stuck fighting us. and this is to radical westerners who hate islam and its people

 

by the way are jews allowed in dubai? israeli or american jews? or are all jews banned?

 

Jews aren't banned in Dubai!

Not to mention Ezra isn't a Jew -- yet.

He's a Catholic -- and for some reason or an other wants to convert to Judaism.

 

Do you know him personally?

 

oh i figured he was because of his avatar looked like hebrew writing and his username sounds jewish, not stereotyping but somethings are logical anyways bad judgement from me,

 

No, I just have a good memory and I take stuff up rather quick -- I had a very "heated" discussion with Ezra in this other thread. I unsubscribed from the thread though -- was getting to tensed.