Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Robodoon, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. Stupidsheep

    Stupidsheep New Member

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    I agree but also would like to add that if we are conscious to the fact that soldiers are working for globalists, then why dont they resign or discharge?

    So there are some intelligent conscious people in this thread, but then there are people like wezol who will continue to justify their staying in the military and fighting a frivolous war. If he truly wanted to serve his country, and he had a big heart, he would have resigned/discharged/whatever, the second he learned the truth. Instead he continues to ignore the truth. So I'll continue to roast him and preach to the young to not join these monsters because they are only killing innocents and helping to destroy, not only innocent people's lives and countries, but also the country which he believes that he is fighting for.

    As long as the federal government continues to remain there and invade a new country what seems like every 6 months, I will not relent. Even if I am banned on this forum, I will find another forum to roast these foolish "soldiers".
     
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    HillBilly New Member Past Donor

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    In reading your post , Robodoon , I can agree that we need to bring our troops home , so we can at least agree on that much .

    however , I must point out that a soldier , any soldier , goes where he is sent and he fights because someone is shooting at him , that is NOT a pillow fight... and it's not something that a soldier can question , having been a soldier myself , you go where you are sent ,,, there is little or NO room for discussion on the matter ... the call for ' boots and saddles ' is a call for war , and the POTUS decides , it's not something that is ' debateable ' ... :gun:
     
  3. Stupidsheep

    Stupidsheep New Member

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    It's not a conspiracy, it's a fact. You just choose to ignore it so you can continue to get paid. You live in fear that if the war stopped, you would lose your job thus lose your source of income. Maybe you like the fame from the ignorant sheep who thank your for your "service". The sick thing about people like you and wezol is you depend on death, destruction, and war to garner a paycheck. Even if the war was based on lies.

    Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Where are the pictures and video of Osama's body?

    Should I post more videos of the "freedom" that you defend here in the USA? I'm sure I can find plenty more videos of the tsa molesting innocent US citizens. Has tsa caught one, ONE, terrorist yet? No.

    What about "Obamacare", why are congress exempt from it?

    Why is it illegal to collect rainwater in some states? So the government now owns and controls rainwater? What kind of freedom is that?

    You are the brainwashed, and a sell out.
     
  4. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    yeah that post of his is hyserical and beyond stupidity,if 99% of them have big hearts then why do they continue working for evil men killing innocent people being their willing pawns instea od being brave and resigning or discharged instead of serving the globalists/what a moronic post he made.I love it.:-D some people dont know what logic means.:mrgreen:
     
  5. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    amen to that,gives standing ovation.
     
  6. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    I'm no longer in the military so your silly comments don't apply to me. Soldiers also don't depend on war for their paychecks. Unlike you, they're actually affected by war and thus don't crave it. Soldiers also aren't paid to kill, they're paid to carry out the directive of the elected government of the United States and protect it. Saying soldiers are paid to kill is like saying a butcher is paid to kill. Way too simplistic. Killing is just a small regretable part of the job. No one really wants to go to war, but unlike you we don't live in a fantasy land. We realize that until humanity changes, soldiering is a neccessary and honorable job.
     
  7. AbsoluteVoluntarist

    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    If there is no right and wrong, stop arguing. Stop defending your position. It's tiresome to debate moral issues with someone who just says, "Eh, there is no wrong; I do not what I want." Well, that's fair enough, and I'll continue to decry our amoralist pseudo-philosophy as evil, destructive, anti-human, and reprehensible. No debate between us is possible.
     
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    It's not necessary and honorable if the war isn't necessary and honorable. If it were true that fighting in a war is honorable per se every fighter on every side of every war is a hero, from Genghis Khan's hordes to the mercenaries of the East India Company to the Waffen SS. They are ALL heroes that should be praised and venerated as defenders of freedom.
     
  9. wezol

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    Ah ok, so let me get this right, I should run and duck my responsibility, and quit, all based off what YOU tell me....do I have that right? Cause so far, all I've read are baseless opinions.

    Sorry, but my pride runs deep, and no matter how much you poke, prod, preach, or whatever, won't change how I feel. So I'll just say it now, shove it up your ass. :)

    You sit behind that computer, free as a jaybird. So go on and enjoy it brother, lap it up.

    Nothing you say to me, can get to me. All your posts do is make me giggle like a little school girl. You so funny, funny man ;)

    Oh, and our military doesn't disband and go home when we are not at war, we continue to train and get paid. Ergo, we don't depend on death and destruction for a paycheck, Copernicus.
     
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    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    I don't know. Should I run and duck my responsibility as a member of the Czar's Okhrana?
     
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    Ummm, pretty sure they went out of existence around 1917. But sure, if you want. Or don't, if they even still exist, I don't care.
     
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    Ahh see here is where you prove your name fits you well. Since all Military are under contract even if the war stopped the U.S. military would still have their job and their source of income till its time to re-up. So they would not be in "fear" of losing their job. Actually we depend on a secure nation for our jobs. without a independent country, and tax payers we would not have our job. you seem to forget. the U.S. Military is here during peace time just as well as war time. but ignorance that you show seems to forget that. people who thank us Thank the U.S. Military during peace as well as war.

    there was WMD in Iraq, just not the Nuclear weapons that they were looking for. but since that does not go with your story you ignore that. We also found mass graves of people who were murdered by the dictator you seem to worship and are mad we got rid of him.

    Well I'm against how much the TSA searches people. but since the liberals make TSA work harder because they have to be "PC" people they know are not going to be terrorist have to be searched. Also you still have the freedom to fly if you want. Just like a police officer has the right to search you if he pulls you over. the TSA has the right to search you.

    if you would listen to the news Obamacare has been found to be unconstitutional. and many people who support the Military and the vets who you like to attack are against Obamacare. and its the unpatriotic left that loves it so much

    again that is a state issue not a federal government issue. the U.S. Military fights for the U.S. government and for the rights of each citizen. even the ignorant who have their head so far up their own ass that they will talk sh*t to the men and women who are willing to give their own life for even the most ignorant of people.

    It seems to me that you are the one who is brainwashed or you just couldn't hack it in the Military.

    You have given no credible reason to why you would try and degrade the men and women who protect your rights.

    But guess what. Obamacare. if it was not for the U.S. Military. you would not have the right to object and sue for your rights against Obamacare

    The rainwater. if it was not for the U.S. Military you would not have the right to go and have your day in court or the rights to protest against your own government.

    If it was not for the U.S. Military that has been fighting for your rights from before the U.S. was a independent country you would not have the rights to be on here and attack the government or its military.

    So obviously you love the rights that the U.S. government and its military has given to you to abuse.
     
  13. AbsoluteVoluntarist

    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    Of course, you don't because, if this thread is any indication, the US military is comprised entirely of complete amoralists. Join the Stasi or don't. Who cares? Join the Mafia or don't. Who cares? Well, some of us actually care.
     
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    Not if they are just paid mercs for the powers destroying humanity.

    "Just doing ones job, or just following orders" doesn't cut the mustard.
    And will not pass by God, when we all stand before Him.

    God will ask, why did you murder. Will the response be, "that was my job"

    Then God will say, well you have already been paid your bag of silver.
     
  15. wezol

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    Why should I waste my time worrying about what you do with your life? If you want to join a criminal organization, go for it. When you get caught and thrown in jail, or killed, don't (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

    If you wanted to join the mafia, or join the non existent Okhrana, is there really anything I can say to stop you? No, there isn't. You have free will, you will do what you want. Sure, I could sit here and say "oh, no, those are bad organizations", and basically use the exact same arguments you have been trying here, but is it really going to work? No, it's not.

    I'm a realist, I dont live in fantasy sheep land.
     
  16. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Nobody is forcing you to respond to me...Ill respond to what you say because I disagree with it, but you by no means have to reply...this is an internet forum...
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I do! We have flowers and unicorns and we all walk around holding hands and singing in harmony. :date:

    When terrorists knocked down the towers we found them and asked them politely "You hurt a lot of people! Please don't do that again it's mean!" to which they replied "I'm sorry, ok I won't hurt anyone anymore I now understand the error of my ways, here let me help you rebuild your buildings and we'll get a ouiji board and try to raise your people we killed from the dead"

    Now we are all friends again! :sun:
     
  18. wezol

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    I like unicorns.
     
  19. AbsoluteVoluntarist

    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    Apparently, one lives in a fantasy land if one is willing to condemn evil acts.

    So far I have heard pretty much zero in the way of defense of the wars or defense of the military's actions from anyone. All I've heard is "Eh, right, wrong, whatever, I don't bother thinking about that stuff." Great advertisement whatever is it you think you do.

    Before, I had thought that most people in the military believed, wrongly but sincerely, that they were actually fighting for a noble cause, or that they questioned it but felt like it wasn't their place to make the call or that they were ethically obligated to obey orders or that they didn't want to risk the repercussions of disobeying them.

    But judging by this thread it seems like most people in the military just don't give a s**t whether the war or any particular action in it is wrong or right.
     
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    We have said numerous times that we believe we are doing good things, but you apparently can't read, or ignored it. So, whatever, not going to beat a dead horse.

    Go unicorns!

    Wouldn't it be ironic if we found a unicorn with a sheep impaled on it's horn?
     
  21. Stupidsheep

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    Wait, did you just saying that killing innocent people so bankers can expand their empire is honorable?

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    All that gunfire and bombing definitely warped your mind.
     
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    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Is it ironic that I was in the military and am now in Finance?
     
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    The police need to have probable cause in order to pull me over. If I'm abiding by the laws, they cannot pull me over based on what I look like. Of course they can make up whatever they want, and they do, but it doesn't make it right.

    Again, the military of today does not fight for my rights. Thomas jefferson, james madison, jackson, franklin, lincoln, etc. Those are the people that fought against the brits and bankers so that people like me could live free of their tyranny and debts, and have rights.

    The military of today fights for those very people that Jefferson warned us about, the bankers, so they can continue their empire of enslaving the people with debt from war. You need to check your history.

    Last I checked, you had absolutely nothing to do with creating or signing, OR upholding, the declaration of independence, bill of rights, and constitution. You do allow government to rape those documents on a daily basis though.

    In Indiana, recently the 4th amendment has pretty much been tossed out. Where were you when that right was being stripped from citizens?

    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-right-to-resist-unlawful-police-entry/

    Oh that's right, you were half way across the planet doing the dirty work of others in exchange for money. You are a bank cartel hit man. That's all. You are on the same level as mafia and drug cartel hit men. A plague upon free people.
     
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    I wouldn't call it ironic. I would call it inevitable. You've served corrupt people your whole life it seems like. Did you get a bailout bonus check for sitting around all day and pushing a pencil?
     
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    McPalin lost election, and big time. your statement can not possibly be anything close to the truth.
    My best friend at the moment is in the military and is going back to Afghanistan soon. I told him my opinion and try not to touch the subject, he can believe what he wants. the reality is what me and people like robodon here believe.
     

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