Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So

You aren't a realist, you are a robot that does what their told.

Terrorists did knock down the twin towers but there is more than what we were told. Some things don't ad up. Like building 7 falling. Nothing hit building 7. Like two massive towers just coincidentally falling straight down. From what I have heard from demolition experts it can be challenging getting a building to fall straight down. But having two buildings as big as the twin towers fall straight down from a single aircraft hitting each on one side only. What are the odds?

And if the CIA, FBI and NSA are so smart, why weren't they tracking the 9-11 hijackers? Why were these guys known to have ties to terrorist groups allowed to all board aircraft the same day at the same time? Several that barely spoke any English. And with box cutters? That's not suspicious.

FBI and CIA sound more like federal bureau of incompetence and al-CIA-duh, than some special intelligence groups.

 

If were in the same level as the mafia and hitmen, is it not you moral duty to come do something about it?

Come on, do something about it. Oh wait, you just have sheep diharreah of the mouth.

You really are clueless. Id pray for you, if I cared. But instead I spill blood for this country.

I have an idea. Go to your dresser and open a drawer. Now pull out your nuts, dangle them in the open drawer, and slam it shut. Maybe it'll wake up, if it doesn't, at least it's still funny.

 

you are very mistaken, SS.

They fight for your rights and for my rights.

If it were not for our military you would be speaking either German or Russian right now!



"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. ... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion; what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." -- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787

 

They each had pieces of information, but their inter-agency communication was horrible. They dropped the ball.

 

It is you who is wrong. We wouldn't be speaking German or Russian. That had nothing to do with the founding of the USA.

Prescott bush, George bush seniors father, helped finance hitlers rise. Hundreds of years ago there was no television, which meant mass amounts of people could not be brainwashed with propaganda, like today. The tyranny was more in plain view. The kings sending men out to serfs to take their earnings and mate with their wives. Thus the men knew why they were fighting and who. Today the tyranny is conducted differently. Millions of citizens are lied to through the idiot box/television while the bankers finance the military industrial complex and then send the trained assassins to invade countries so that the empire can be expanded. The principle is the same but the tactics are different.

 

yes and when the U.S. Military first engaged with the enemy in Afghan even with "Probable cause" we were not able to do our job. We were forced to sit back and allow people to shoot at us. We were told not to fire at certain things even if we were fired at.

Again you always seem to forget the fact that a majority of the citizens thank the U.S. for being there. and that a majority of the people we are fighting are not from Iraq, or Afghan.

you also seem to forget that when the U.S. military goes through cities it does not go through every single house, so in most cases they do use some type of "Probable cause" as to where to search and who to track down.

The U.S. soldiers still fight for your rights even as ignorantly as you use your rights. Tell me do you have the right to protest? do you have the right to speak against your government? Obviously you do since you do a very good job showing ignorance on this forum. So Obviously the U.S. troops have continued fighting for your freedoms since you still have them.

The U.S. Military fights for everybody in and out of our country but ignorance does not allow you to see through your bias opinion of the U.S. military. Its funny how you attack "Bankers" who pay a majority of the taxes allowing you to get cheaper education. if you had ever bothered to use your education. they have also paid taxes for the worthless lazy idiots can stay on welfare.

Yes the Democrats do a very poor job at upholding the documents you are talking about. but again. instead of sitting in your moms basement why don't you get out and protest and actually stand for something other then just plain ignorance. You might not support that troops. but at least they are not sitting on their lazy ass doing nothing. They at least stand for something whether you support what they stand for or not.

and since the search is "Illegal" anything they find on the premises would not be allowed in court. So would you rather have police "Shooting" innocent people because somebody decided to fight?

Again where were you? I don't see you out on the streets protesting. just crying about it on here.

so since this was just a few months ago. I was at home. working.

and what I find funny about this is. You try to act like you stand for something and that you are trying to help people see the truth. so why didn't you mention anything about Indiana before today? if this case you sited above was such a big deal to you. why did you not say anything about it except for while you are trying to attack the U.S. Military.

Again you are attacking people for standing for something. when you have proven you stand for nothing since you have done nothing to prevent what you are against.

 

Again, SS, you are very mistaken.

Without our military, first the Germans and then the Russians would have easily taken over and occupied our country as both countries did to the nations of eastern Europe before, during and after the second world war.

Your problem is you make these nutty and outrageous statements when it is obvious you have no understanding or knowledge at all of recent world history. No one takes your opinions seriously because it is obvious you are not smart enough or have sufficient knowledge of past historical events to even defend them!

 

It is sad that people have limited imaginations

 

I'm curious as to what your profession is? It must be incredibly difficult, considering what you're looking down upon. There are 6 billion+ people on earth. Trying to filter out the few thousand that are plotting terrorist attacks isn't easy. You probably sit behind a desk all day typing up TPS reports. Your arrogance is absolutely astounding. Your the opitome of an armchair general. Actually, now that I think about it, you're probably just a college kid who hasn't tasted the real world. You read conspiracy theory blogs and take a few college classes. You think you're superior to the so-called sheep who live and work in the real world that you've yet to be humbled by.

 

I don't really know how to say this without being offensive since that is not my purpose, my purpose is to be friends and share my understanding:

People like me are NOT getting drowned out, the country 16 trillion in debt and having to pay 60 cents on every dollar borrowed is drowned out, meaningless basicaly, sort of like ants or mosquitos. my problem personaly is that I am not a millionaire and am drowning along with you, yet I have imagination to see the world without corruption, its much more rewarding then being a millionaire, and it is possible if only I could get thru to people. I have a vision. so far people only see me as insane, but I hope one day they will be able to see my vision.

 

Peoplevsmedia

If your vision is seenig the world without corruption, good luck!



Thanks to the ObamaCare law, an astonishing 85 million people will soon be enrolled in Medicaid (or the children's version of it) by 2014 -- nearly a third of all Americans below 65. And what about "shared sacrifice"? The Obama health law imposed plenty of sacrifice on seniors and baby boomers: It slashed funding for Medicare by $500 billion over the next decade. It uses those "savings" to pay for two entitlements: a huge increase in Medicaid enrollment and new subsidies for middle-income Americans (families earning up to $88,000 a year) to pay for private health care plans Unfortunately, when push comes to shove, even this amount will not be sufficient to cover all of these millions of new enrollees!

 

Exactly, same here.

Numerous times have people paid for my dinner, and it's extremely appreciated. So, to show my appreciation, if they aren't done eating, I pay for theirs, and go and thank them and shake their hands. It's a mutual respect. They see it as thanking the troops for doing what we do, but it's their support that makes our job incredibly worth it, so for that, I show my support for them.

People like stupid sheep (fitting name by the way), and others like him, are an extreme minority. But you know, to be honest, Im happy they have the freedom to voice their opinion, even if it is ignorant and insulting. Because when it comes down to it, that's what makes this country great.

 

a world without corruption would be great. is its logical thought. not really. the simple truths are that people by nature have their own self interest at hand, and that creates greed, and greed eventually creates corruption.

the world is not a utopia. We are not at peace, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days a year their is violence somewhere in the world. even without the U.S. Military.

now it would be nice if their was no wars, and everybody could get a long. the people who would enjoy that the most are the ones who fight these wars. because as any Marine, Soldier, Airmen or sailor can tell you. They are willing to go to war because that is what is needed. not because that is what they want.

people back home can complain all they want and call the U.S. troops all the names they want. but at least the U.S. troops are standing for something. and standing up for not only for the people back home that they love and care about. but everybody who disrespects them as well. and those who are so ignorant that they can't see that the world is not perfect and because the world is not perfect bad things tend to happen.

A world of peace would great and maybe some day in the future it will happen. but till that day. You know you can count on the U.S. military to do what most people are afraid to do. They are willing to do the dirty work so the people back home and cry about how horrible they are.

It must be nice to have the type of freedoms where you can ridicule the people who are willing to die for that exact right.

 

I've had people buy things and pay for things for me in the past. the one that I appreciated the most was when I was coming home from the sand box. and I had all the luggage that I was suppose to have. well the airline told me that I would have to pay for the extra bags.

The guy behind me said that it was BS that they were making us pay to bring home the things that we use to keep us safe and our country safe. so he ended up paying the extra baggage fee he also paid for a first class upgrade which was really nice...

I then checked my luggage and we went on our way... and stopped at a bar where I told him I would buy his drink. so we had a few drinks. and he had to go. I told him that I would take care of the bill. Well I decided to eat. and at the end I went to pay.

the guy told me it had already been taken care of.

So the majority of American's do show respect to the military one way or another. but really somebody just saying thank you for your service is more rewarding then the pay check I received while in the military.

 

I'm a veteran. I served in Desert Storm. I do not disagree with the OP. completely. I cannot in good faith make the blanket generalization that all military personnel fighting overseas are murders.. some are cold blooded killers and are merely sactioned criminals. A great majority of soldiers.. marines..etc are mislead well intentioned kids that end up fighting to live in a hostile environment.. thats all.

I do not appreciate being called a murderer.. I do feel that I have been exploited for special interests and I have helped spill blood for oil.. it was not my intention.

Our military is being exploited by banking cartels and big corporations. If you really want fight and rise up against the murderers and criminals responsible.. rise up against the people you vote into office that send these good honorable kids off to kill innocents and die as victims.

 

There is truth in this but nothing has changed since 2001 with the US invasion except who the corrupt "warlord" is controlling the country of Afghanistan. Instead of the Taliban now they have Karzai but the people are still being subjected to a government of tyranny. Always remember that the Northern Alliance was not supported by the Afghani people anymore than the Taliban and, in fact, had less support but we choose to impose them as the government of Afghanistan. They maintain power today by the use of military force and fraud.

It is always easy to identify a tyrannical government because the authority of that government must be imposed through military force that targets the political opposition of citizens to the government. People are arrested based upon what they believe as opposed to any criminal actions.

By way of example how many Afghani citizens are in GITMO today because of what they believe and not because of any evidence of them committing a criminal act? How many thousands more are being held in prisons in Afghanistan? Yes, they might believe in the ideology of al Qaeda or the Taliban but arresting people simple because of what they believe is reflective of absolute tyranny by government.

Before closing remember that there was no justification for the US invasion of Afghanistan. The attacks of 9/11 were criminal acts and not the actions of the government of Afghanistan. Had we wanted to bring Osama bin Ladin to justice for his possible role in those attacks (which were never documented by any criminal indictment although he was indicted for the 1998 African embassy bombings) then the Taliban had offered to turn him over to an independent tribunal for trial.

The Bush adminstration was not interested in bringing Osama bin Ladin to justice but instead was interested in satisfying the blood lust of Americans that wanted revenge. It didn't matter that the Taliban government of Afghanistan wasn't responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Afghanistan was a Muslim country that Bush decided to attack without any real evidence of bin Ladin's involvement in the 9/11 attacks so to satisfy the blood lust desire for revenge it made a "good" target for that revenge. It provided the American People with the satisfaction of "vigilante justice" which was nothing but misdirected revenge.

 

The soldiers are not mercenaries but they have certainly been used as such by the government of the United States. If we remember the Gulf War of 1991 then President George GW Bush accepted tens of billions of dollars from the Royal Family of Kuwait to deploy the US military to the Gulf to fight a war on their behalf. The Royal Family of Kuwait, a tyrannical regime in its own right, got one heck of a deal because the US taxpayers picked up most of the tab for that war.

Why did the US go to the aid of a tyrannical regime where the Royal Family had pillaged the wealth of their nation for their own personal financial enrichment? The truth is that the Royal Family of Kuwait were personal friends and former business associates of the US president and that is why we went to war. It wasn't related to the US being endangered at all by Iraq and we had no business intervening in a regional conflict between opposing tyrants.

 

I'll leave all the other comments you made alone because that will seriously derail the thread. But I'm glad to see you agree that Afghanistan is just a no mans land of warlords. I don't pretend that Karzai's government is much different. Afghanistan has political/ethnic divisions that go back centuries. Its been a very long time since they've been anything close to a unified country.

 

Whether others agree or disagree on whether we should have used the US military to address a criminal act the fact remains that we have absolutely no business being in Afghanistan today.

 

http://www.federaljack.com/?p=96692

If this keeps up there will be no pawns left to fight for the tyrants.

Do your duty, soldier:

 

Lets run the numbers then.

There are roughly 2 million members of the US Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

July set the RECORD for 32 suicides since 2009, when records began to be released. So lets just say, a high average of 30/month.

2,000,000/360=5,555.5 months, which comes out to 462.962 years, and that's if ALL enlistments stop today, done, no more people are aloud into the US Military.

 

I posted in hast I admit. I thought, and was hoping, that the number was higher.

Who wants to see more of a government organization molesting children. I really don't but I'll post it anyway.

http://www.infowars.com/another-day-another-child-molested-by-tsa/

You "soldiers" keep fighting for our freedom. You are doing such a fine job. *heavy sarcasm in case you missed it*

 

Again your ignorance shows.

Are you forced to fly? the answer is no. so obviously you have the Freedom to chose how you travel. you can fly but then you have to go through the security checks.

If the TSA didn't have to be so PC. then we wouldn't be checking people that in no way fit the description of the people we are looking out for.

But since the liberals are making the TSA be PC and search people, and children that would not be a threat to anybody. We have issues.

You have the freedom to fly, you have the freedom to not fly, you have the freedom to take private jets where you don't have to be searched at all.

But since you have to point out the one thing that you are "NOT FORCED" to do. you somehow say that the U.S. is taking away your freedoms.

again. show me a law that states that you as a American citizen are forced to fly and be subject to the TSA searches.

You won't find one because you are not forced to fly so you don't have your rights, and freedoms taken away unless you chose to fly.

But since you have a bias ignorance you will never be able to understand that.

Again if you want to blame children being searched that are in no way a threat to the U.S. stop blaming the soldiers and start blaming the democrats in office who force everybody to be PC. and not look for the real threats.