If you don't want a baby, get your tubes tied.

We all know how obviously ridiculous it would be to suggest euthanizing infants to save taxpayer money. Why is it really so different when they are inside the womb?

It's just wrong to kill innocent little babies to save money, wherever they are.
(Especially if they are perfectly normal and healthy)

 

Which is no less wrong.

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Not wrong enough to justify invasive laws.

 

Check post # 317....

 

Everyone check post 317

 

What about it? I'm on topic.

 

The fact is that the Affordable Care Act does NOT subsidize abortion. It requires plans that cover abortion to charge a separate fee for the abortion coverage, so the federal premium subsidy covers the rest of the plan.

The issue that some insurance companies are not following the law is not the fault of Obama as so many seem to want to project.

As to this so called funding of abortion, do you object to funding health care for smokers etc as well?

 

Really lie, how exactly, do you not think that if the abortion is done due to rape, incest or danger to the woman it is not going to be investigated .. some delusion you are creating.

 

Men who are against abortion should just never have sex. Then they will never be responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

 

Or be careful about which women they have sex with.
I was having a discussion in another forum and some guy told everyone about how before he had sex with his girlfriend he made her promise she wouldn't get an abortion if she got pregnant.

 

So they BOTH want a baby....correct?

Does he know she has every right to change her mind? A "promise" isn't legally binding.

 

No, they don't want a baby. They just don't want to kill a baby if it forms.

That's why there should be some sort of contract he can get her to sign.

 

Then he should wear two condoms. He seems confused, either he wants a kid or not???? Or he wants a kid he doesn't want....how nice for the kid

Right NOW, in Reality Land , there are no contracts of that kind.

 

On second thought. maybe HE should just stop having sex. Maybe HE should keep his pants up (turn around is fair play , right?)

 

That's not true. Go type "abortion contract" into an internet search.

They already have contracts for surrogate mothers, who are subject to monetary damages if they get an abortion.

 

So? If you're correct then NO problem and NO promise is needed....have her sign this mythical contract


OR


HE could just not have sex if he doesn't want a baby as Anti-Choicers insist women do

 

On the other side of things, if you're a "pro-choice" man, and you get your pro-life girlfriend pregnant there's a good possibility you're going to be making child support payments.

 

That has nothing to do with : """"HE could just not have sex if he doesn't want a baby as Anti-Choicers insist women do"""

Are you advocating to him that he just shouldn't have sex and then NO child support payments???

 

He can always get his "TUBES TIED" ......

 

funny that consequences only apply to the man...like I've beensaying all along... action without the responsibility.
If she doesn't want the torture and pain of children, she should get her tubes tied. then she can play all she wants without the consequences

 

Yes, but if he doesn't, he's not the one who will have to carry a baby.
That's why so much of the onus is on the woman to utilize proper contraceptive options, whether fair or not.

 

YUP, shrug off nay restrictions on men...how DARE anyone suggest MEN do what Anti-Choicers want women to do!

And yes, it IS women who have to be pregnant and that's why abortion is legal....and why THEY alone, without your help, make the decision..

 

I wonder what your response would be if the shoe was on the other foot?

"All men should be required to get vasectomies - when they are ready to help care for and support a child, then they can have the vasectomy reversed ..."

Are you willing to support this equally valid solution as well?

Hello? Anyone there?

 

I asked him that in post 343.

Anti-Choicers don't go for the "shoe on the other foot" because it's really women that they want to punish for having sex.

 

This is not the case. Many women discuss the issue with the partner, family member or friends and come to a mutual decision to abort or not. Saying that the women makes the decision without any help and go it alone is not reality.

While in the Army I was asked for advice from 2 female soldiers not of my making but wanted someone to talk with.
Please do not pretend women live in a vacuum. Not all women are that shallow.