Peace in the Middle East for All Time

It's refreshing to see Trump get these historic peace deals, not to mentioned ending the endless wars.....I think it's safe to call this time we are end Pax Trump

 

Wow, so few understand the real significance of this. The ME was divided, Trump is getting allies to declare their positions while Iran and its terror network is weakened in a bid to strip away their influence. The more countries commit officially, the more pressure there is on those fence sitters trying to play both sides. Palestine is very much involved and the endgame here although I don't think we are anywhere near that. The Palestinians will reject any offer while they have a strong coalition backing their position. Don't get me wrong, Palestine got screwed but that doesn't excuse their terrorist actions, any accommodation with them must be made from a position of extreme strength otherwise they won't accept anything but the dissolution of the Israeli state. Of course, Iran just wants chaos as that is their path to control. The usual politicking around the issues of the ME has failed for 70 years, its nice to see a new approach, especially one that doesn't involve more and more corpses to help sow discontent and anti-Americanism.

 

Trump’s “Peace” Deals Will Worsen Oppression in Middle East

Neither Netanyahu nor Trump mentioned the Palestinians in their remarks. Earlier in the day, Palestinian activists in the West Bank and Gaza protested the agreements. The foreign ministers of Bahrain and the UAE also spoke at the ceremony. Emirati Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed also spoke.

The fact that they have now offered this carrot without any meaningful concession to the Palestinians, even slightly easing the blockade on Gaza, should indicate to us that this is not about advancing any kind of meaningful, enduring peace, but instead about entrenching a geopolitical alliance that would otherwise increase oppression for people of the Middle East, in Bahrain, in the Emirates, in Yemen and in Palestine, who are struggling for freedom and democracy and are now facing off against powers who are backed by the United States militarily and also offered impunity within international fora, like the Security Council.

https://truthout.org/video/trumps-peace-deals-will-worsen-oppression-in-middle-east-legal-scholar-says/

 

According to a partisan that has no clue what it means or doesn't mean and only cares about Trump not getting elected. I mean I guess we could just send a billion dollars in unmarked bills to fund enemy terrorist's and you would be happy.

 

What "new approach"? This is more smoke and mirrors.

 

That's the point, we have tried negotiating with and for Palestine longer than I've been alive and everything is refused by the Palestinians. Take them out of the conversation and weaken their support until their only option is to negotiate in good faith.

 

Even if your right, I'd rather Trump's smoke and mirrors than what Bush or Obama gave us, smoke and corpses.

 

This thread is simple proof that to the TDS crowd there is literally nothing Trump can do that would be correct.

 

LOL

This just in... Australia just signed a comprehensive peace treaty with New Zealand...

Rugby saved!

Trump reportedly knows where one of those countries is on a map (no fair guessing)

 

I've live through these 3.5 years.... Sounds about right...

Hard to imagine he could so soundly defeat the law of averages, but I heard he filed an appeal to that law.

He's no George Bush Jr, that's for sure...

 

Trump brokered peace between nations who were actively violent against each other.

This is completely Trumps doing.

GREAT JOB PRESIDENT TRUMP!!

 

If you think life has been tough, or the country has been in a bad place the last 3.5 years, you're ignorant to history.

 

It is certainly the step in the right direction as far as the ME goes in the general relation with Israel, hopefully it will stand the test of time.

 

I believe the land grabs, or the stopping of them, in the West Bank are a key factor in the peace deal.

 

The West Bank is Arab Palestine. Israel is Jewish Palestine.

 

We're talking about people whose homes are in Palestine, these people did not immigrate to Palestine, they've lived there their entire lives. If any country has an obligation to accept them as citizens, it is the country that is annexing them

 

We're talking about Israel annexing Palestine... Israel does not recognize the Palestinians as citizens of their own country, nor do they recognize them as citizens of Israel (Israel doesn't recognize Palestine as belonging to Jordan either). That is why Israel annexing Palestine is problematic

 

I said this on another duplicate thread of this subject and I will say it again:

Trump may very well achieve peace in the middle east - something that has eluded all other US Presidents and something that has been desired for more than half a century - and right on que liberals start pissing on it. I guess America fostering peace is not what liberals want. I think they liked it better when Obama gave billions to the terrorist state of Iran. Liberals are just anti-American.

 

You just don't get it, that has been the failed path for 60 years. The Palestinians don't want a deal.

 

No, these people left voluntarily in 1948 because the arab nations promised to "drive the Jews into the sea." What happened was the combined arab armies had their collective asses kicked by the Jews. And if you want to play the game "Who was there first", the Jews were there before anyone.

 

How many countries did Obama and Biden get to recognize Israel?

 

Do you understand that Iran is IN the middle east? How's that peace going?

 

I once found an old newspaper from 1932...in it was an article stating how the Pope wanted to pray for peace in the Middle East.

OK, that was 90 years ago.

I'd sure like to know at what TINY miniscule point in time there was ever Peace in the Middle East... 1017 AD?, 1248AD?, 1865 AD? 200 BC ?

 

There are over 5 million people living in Palestine today, they certainly didn't already leave, and if all of these people were forced out of their homes, it would be one of the greatest refugee crisis that the world has seen, especially if they were forced out permanently

and for the record, the Phoneticians date as far back as 2500 BC, the kingdom of Judea wasn't founded until year the 10th century BC, the earliest recording of the Philistines (where Palestine gets its name) dates as far back as 1200 BC. In fact, the old testament exists because of the Phonetician alphabet, that is why the old Hebrew language is also known as "Paleo-Hebrew", but if you want to get into semantics, both Hebrew and Arabic people are Semitic people. Just like how Spanish and Italian both evolved from the Latin language, both Hebrew and Arabic evolved from the Syro-Arabian languages which we refer to today as the Semitic languages

However, all of that is ancient history, what we are talking about here is the basic human right of people having a state which is run through them rather than over them. It is not the right of one people to rule over another, nor is it a right for the dead to rule over the living.

 

Both Al Qaeda and ISIS are Sunnis.