210 Democrats Voted Against Providing Immediate Medical Assistance to Babies Who Survive Abortion

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  1. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why did they vote to deny medical care to surviving infants?

    I don't care what law was in place, I want to know WHY they voted to deny medical care to infants. Why do you and other dems keep dancing around that simple fact?
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So let them die on the table? That's your answer?

    Do you have kids? If money is tight, do you throw them out to the elements and let them die?

    Where do you want to draw the line? 1 year old, 5 years old?
     
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    no babies dying on the table, not one

    now republicans laws will pull the plug on a baby tat is born if mom is poor

    do you support universal health care for children?
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No babies will die without receiving medical care because dems didn't win the vote.
     
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    They didn’t deny anything. They declined to support a bill for a law which is already in place…!

    This is nothing more than the Republicans beating the anti-abortion drum to rile up those in their base who are incapable of thinking for themselves…

    And, as a foreigner, I am a member of none of your political parties…
     
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    this bill is going nowhere, no babies will die with or without this bill

    do you support universal health care for children that are born?
     
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    Yes, I do.
     
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    wow, shocked, glad to hear it, so we do agree on something :clapping:
     
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    Research is your friend. The third link adequately describes why the 2002 bill is inadequate and why more is needed.

    Lefties in this thread don't even realize how embarrassing their position is on this matter.

    https://lozierinstitute.org/questions-and-answers-on-born-alive-abortion-survivors/

    https://www.preciouslife.com/news/8...eft-to-die-after-nhs-abortions-that-go-wrong/

    https://heritageaction.com/blog/set...survivors-protection-act-claims-and-responses
     
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    Uh, what was "brought to the table" in that post ???? Answer: Nothing
     
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    OK... I left out the word "prospective".... but it was 3 syllables, and I didn't want to cause more confusion than already exists...
     
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    just cause you read it on the internet (on an anti-choice site) doesn't mean anything
     
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    If you are familiar with leftist writings, why are you a leftist??

    Everything to do with the left is pure evil, suffering, deprivation, and death.

    Or is it that you are unfamiliar or misinformed about the principles of freedom??

    It would be difficult for any rational, honest, moral person to be a Democrat or some other flavor of leftist, be it fascist, socialist, or communist if one were truly educated and well read on the subjects of history, liberty, and collective ideology.

    America is dying, and what liberty we have left will soon be gone. My thoughts and opinions will be illegal - thought crime, hate speech, etc.

    The leftist nightmare is only just beginning. Being a leftist yourself won't save you.

    I'm amazed that people can't read the writing on the wall.

    Good luck to you.
     
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    The essence of freedom is the limitation of government.

    Our Republic was founded on that principle.

    Few Americans subscribe to that founding ideal anymore though.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    That is the bottom line and the question they can’t or in reality won’t answer
     
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    Unless something drastically changes, the far greater will not vote for such candidates.
     
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    It is more complex than that. Democrats beleive the bill is a bill to ban late term abortions. The way the bill is read, any baby, say 26 weeks or older, in the womb, would be prevented to be aborted even when medically necessary. At least, how I read the bill. So, that is why they voted against it. It is not that GOP in the House cares about babies. They don't. They just want to ban abortion, at any and all costs because the hard-line pro-life groups are now demanding that from the House or they will withhold their vote. Ain't Democracy grand would you say?
     
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    So that's a no? You don't want to fork over your hard earned cash to keep these abortion failures alive? Why not? Don't all their lives matter to you?
     
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    "A limited government" has many connotations. The original intent of "a limited government" was that government can do what only the Constitution allows and does not allow. Modern conservatives believe that a "limited government" means that government is to not interfere, a laizze-faire approach, in which government cannot exceed the "will of the people" and that if the "will of the people" want a large military and a border that resembles a place like North Korea, then so be it. But the irony of the GOP is that they are all for freedom as long as that freedom is to their cause and no freedom to other causes, hence the abortion hypocrisy, the "prison reform" hypocrisy, and so forth.
     
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    That tells me clearly enough that you only have a RW spin on Marx and socialism. And though I know you would never take me up on this, I could prove beyond any reasonable doubt that you don’t know what socialism would be, and probably don’t know what communism would be. (FYI and just so you don’t make a mistake, I am NOT a communist.)
     
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    Your logic is unless we are willing to support someone's life financially, then we should just let them die?
     
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    You would have a point if the former Governor of Virginia did not openly discuss what this law is meant to prevent.
     
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    Perhaps read it again...

    Or look at the basic definition of Born..
     
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    So where should an aborted fetus, that may be unable to survive without medical intervention their entire life go? Who do you want eating the bill for all the medical necessities needed to keep that fetus alive because the gop forced it to live?
     
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    Why stop at Fetus? Why not say all kids? Your logic not mine.. I mean how do you live day to day with the evil mean GOP "forcing" you to live? End the GOP control over yourself!!!

    Aka you have a twisted sadistic view on life.. Go ahead report it. It has to be said... Go get your chuckles elsewhere!
     
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