Vegan raw food diet influencer Zhanna D’Art dies of starvation: report

What essential macro or micro nutrients would be deficient in an animal product only diet?

 

A balance is needed, which does include protein and it's various sources, plants and fruits, and the occasional grain. All one or the other, or even overly weighted one way or another, has issues.

The 'food pyramid' was better than nothing initially, but humans have grown way beyond the limited knowledge that created it.

 

Two million sailors died when relying on a carnivorousness diet due to lack of vitamin C and they did not know why

 

Liver is a source of vitamin C

 

actually the carbs compete with vit c is why you need so much if eat excessive carbs

many eat only meat and do just fine

 

nope, had they only been carnivorousness, they would have been fine, it was the carbs competing with vit c that were the issue, bread and grains that stored easy on the ship

there is so many carnivores out there now, that this myth is busted

this myth was so strong, they did not believe this guy when he got back and had him prove it, as until then, they thought the diet would give people scurvy

"The Arctic Explorer Who Pushed an All-Meat Diet"

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/all-meat-diet

"During Stefansson’s day, though, doctors, dietitians, and general opinion considered the meat-heavy diets of the Arctic peoples poor and improbable. Stefansson’s year of eating carnivorously was a high-profile attempt to prove them wrong."

 

Yes, if they were eating fresh meat they would have been fine.

And, you alluded to this, but I want to clearly state that carbohydrates are NOT an essential macronutrient.

 

this was not known back then

https://philmaffetone.com/six-facts-vitamin-c/

"3. Vitamin C absorption is impaired by carbohydrates. In the intestines, vitamin C absorption competes with glucose for absorption. Ironically, many vitamin C products and food products with added vitamin C also contain added sugar. So consuming junk food could result in lower absorption rates for vitamin C."

 

Uh yeah. People who go for a all meat diet, add pills to get vit C.
This person would also be fine if she went for all fruit and vit pills.

 

they do not have to add pills for vit c, some meats and fish contain vit c, and you need less vit c if you do not consume carbs

now any diet could add a multi vitamin if they feel they need

you need protein, hard to get the protein needs on a fruit only diet

 

If you eat the fresh meat raw, sure. lol

 

it is when eaten raw which is not really recommended due to toxicities such as nitrogenous waste and too high vitamin A. Cooking destroys most of vitamin C. There is also the problem of overdosing on other vitamins, (mainly A), minerals and getting high cholesterol. Sailors of old lived on meat including liver, kidneys etc but still two million died from scurvy. Vitamin C is very susceptible to degrading due to exposure to air, moisture and heat

 

med rare meat is better for sure

"How Do Carnivores Get Vitamin C? Is Scurvy An Issue?"

https://www.carnivorerx.com/how-do-carnivores-get-vitamin-c/

 

Lightly cooked meat still has vitamin C.

Also, in this day and age, it is a simple matter to add a multivitamin to one’s diet.

As @FreshAir has pointed out, the difficulty with a vegetarian diet is getting adequate protein.

 

That is a terrible link! "So taking in a high amount of Vitamin C is required when the plants are also attempting to stop you from using them for food." What is this rubbish. The whole reason that plants produce fruit is for animals to eat it and in so doing spread seeds

Carnivores need meat because they cannot make their own Vitamin A. Carnivores make their own vitamin C. Omnivores can make their own Vit A but need to ingest vit C. Carnivores can detoxify Vitamin A and nitrogenous waste (hence eating raw liver is fine for them), we cannot and those substances are poisonous to us

 

some plants block nutrient absorption

carbs block vit c absorption

 

A multivitamin can be used rather than liver.

Again, micronutrients are manageable with a One-a-day. Macronutrients are not. It is difficult to get one’s protein needs met on a vegetarian diet while not over consuming calories.

 

It's not plants. Vitamin C is water soluble so easily obtained from plants. High glucose in the blood or intestine can effect absorption as the structures are similar ans so are competing for the same absorption pathway

 

Its extremism that is always the problem, not the essence of the diet. Vegans can live a long very healthy life, as long as they vary their diet, and they learn how and when to increase their normal caloric and protein diet to meet enhanced needs during pregnancy, prolonged illness, wound repair etc. There are occasions in life where your dietary needs will demand that you break your normal routine to gain some caloric and protein 'margin for error'.

What has worked for you over the last twenty years, will not work for you post hip replacement surgery. You have to figure out how you are going to get increased needs met, when you have almost no appetite to shove more in.

 

Good link. The basically added a disclaimer about to just take a pill and not risk it. lol
And that pork liver is a good way to catch hepatitis.


I dunno why people don't go for some kind of balanced diet and some exercise.

 

Supplements can be used to compensate for any nutritional requirement

It is not difficult to get protein on a vegetarian diet. Post 2 counteracts that and many professional sportsmen are vegan or vegetarian such as Novak Djokovic (vegan), Serana Williams (vegetarian), Lewis Hamilton (vegan), Neymar (vegan), Kyrgios (vegan), Weissmuller (vegetarian)

Very few vegetarians are over weight

 

I am aware that there are vegan protein powders. If you’re referring to those, then sure. I thought we were talking about eating foods directly.

I’m not anti-vegan. One can be a healthy vegan if one supplements macros and micros. Just as one can be a healthy animal-based eater with similar caveats.

And I’m pretty sure that eating only fruit with no supplementation is unhealthy. Just the lack of B-12 alone jumps out at me.

 

If any vegans are reading this thread I suggest you incorporate Quinoa into your diet as it is a complete protein.

 

you dont really die from eating meat/fish only
might not be very healthy but add a good multivitamine and you wil last a long time.
fruit only just doesnt have the proteine required in a proper diet to survive
and out of carbs/fat/proteine proteine is the only essential one in the end.

 

Good answer, but there are actually two essential fatty acids: omega-3 and omega-6. These cannot be produced by the human body.