Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that do

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  1. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    If Russia tried to occupy Europe, we should let them overextend. It would result in a collapse of the Russian state at a level beyond even 1991. No way they can do it.
     
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    We had allies that we actually fought side by side with in Afghanistan for 20 years, and we, as a people, allowed our commander-in-chief to abandon them in the middle of the night to be murdered by the Taliban. That's how we treat our allies. People that are outraged by Trump's words, but give Biden a pass for getting our Afghan allies killed are extremely fake imo.
     
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    Yes, better to not say anything before abandoning your allies, like Biden did to our Afghan allies.
     
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    Except actually abandoning our allies on the battlefield.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that an attempt to strangle a great power from resources through sanctions was a major contributing factor to the bombs at Pearl Harbor. We couldn't be doing the same today could we?
     
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    It takes the Senate to consent to a treaty. I wasn't aware that it requires them to leave a treaty. The Constitution makes the President commander-in-chief of the armed forces. It's kind of hard to be commander-in-chief when one doesn't have a say in which military alliance to leave, doesn't it?
     
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    The withdrawal was officially agreed upon by the previous admin. Not much of a secret.
     
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    Yeah, and Trump made plans to abandon them as well. In fact he was the one who negotiated with terrorists for the original deal to leave. I don’t think it would have been as sloppy as Biden’s exit by any means but it would have been leaving allies just the same.
     
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    The previous administration did not agree to simply leave behind those who worked and/or fought with us to the mercy of the Taliban. The agreement didn't stipulate that Biden, and his administration, repeatedly mislead those allies, for 2 months, as to the likelihood of them coming under the authority of the Taliban.

    How's Malala doing? Did they at least get her out, or is she dead by now?
     
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    I didn't see the part where Trump planned to make no effort to fly out our allies who were certainly going to be killed by the Taliban before we withdrew. That effort would have occurred in the few months prior to the withdrawal, which time frame was under Biden.
     
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    Of course it did. Its absurd to think we could take the Afghan army with us.

    As soon as Trump made the deal, the Afghans made their own deals with the Taliban, which is why Taliban walked into cities without a fight. The Afghans are not "at the mercy" of the Taliban, they became Taliban themselves. Assuming they would take over and fight the Taliban was naive at best.
     
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    What was the name of that comedian they brutally murdered within a week of marching into Kabul? If they killed him, what do you think is happening to the interpreters who worked with us? What do you think they did to the guy who helped Marcus Luttrell (depicted in the movie Lone Survivor)?

    If they were naive, they didn't deserve to die, or be imprisoned, because that naivete was probably, in part at least, based on Biden's misleading statements, for 2 months.

    There should have been a plan to get people out whom would be mistreated by the Taliban because of their assisting us, in the months prior to withdrawal. It clearly wasn't even considered. Only people who are dishonorable garbage would handle our comrades in arms in this way.

    Absurd to take the army with us eh? How many rando Afghans did the Biden administration brag about getting out in the last couple of weeks of their chaotic effort? How big was the army?
     
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    He won't use nukes unless he is about to lose Moscow to an invading army. He doesn't need nukes to attack Poland or other European countries.
     
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    Putin OR kIM? I agree with you on Putin but think Kim may be a problem.
     
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    LOL. No one knows if laws are broke until an investigation is done. That's the purpose of an investigation. To get details about what was done and who did them and if they're legal or illegal.

    No one is going after him because he is running or politics. IN FACT, MOST IF NOT ALL CASES STARTED BEFORE HE threw his name into the presidential RACE.
     
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    You are a member of any of those districts? You in the justice system?
    If not, how would you know anything of any evidence they may have had?
     
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    Gov't doesn't do any censoring.
    They certainly don't control Google or Facebook.

    Assassination? What? No one AFAIK has been assassinated in USA since, Kennedy. Some 60 yrs ago.
     
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    What countries has USA invaded and taken control of?

    And why did the USA invade them, as you claim?

    I hope you don't live in USA.
     
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    WHICH RACE?
     
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    Entering into or leaving a treaty should be left to a POTUS alone since that treaties subject to be entered or existed at a partisan whim.
     
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    Biden was between a rock and a hard stop because if he did not continue what the previous administration decided upon he would have been blamed for continuing the Afghan war. He continued the withdrawal and he gets blamed with abandonment.
     
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    US troops had been reduced to 2 500 by the time he took office, so it was pretty much a done deal by then, and so few troops are actually at risk of getting overran.
     
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    So it can be said that the previous administration reduced the troop strength by too much and to too fast.
     
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    Well, they were working towards the agreed withdrawal timeline.
     
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    This Putin era should never end (or continue) with him attacking a European NATO-member.

    Putin has turned Russia in a police/war state that serves no purpose to the Russian people.
    Russia belongs to Russian citizens, not one dictator. It's their country to take back.

    Laying flowers to remember Alexei Navalny is one thing. (Basically a protest against his murder.)
    Going on mass strike is another. Like refusal to work any longer for Putin's police-state.

    Much, MUCH more ''ruthless'' action is required by the Russian people to start attacking Putin's reign.
    Passive resistance is that action.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_strike

    It's easy for me to sit here and type this but resistance is the only thing ordinary Russians have left.
    They have no country left worth living in any more, so what else is to be done?

    Political leaders (specifically in the US and Europe) need to be much more vocal about this.
    Encouraging the Russian people to rise up against Putin is long overdue.
     
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