Genitalia vs Chromosomes: what makes you male of female?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Apr 1, 2024.

  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,260
    Likes Received:
    49,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't care what brave New world science tries to support the notion that a man clearly born with a penis and testicles can magically become a woman and vice versa.

    You can gather up all the pseudoscience you want but you're not going to change that reality
     
    Polydectes likes this.
  2. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,165
    Likes Received:
    19,400
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was estimated at USD 2.1 billion in 2022 and is anticipated to grow at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.25% from 2023 to 2030.
     
    Polydectes likes this.
  3. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,649
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Said the flat earthers.
     
    Lucifer, Bowerbird and yardmeat like this.
  4. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,469
    Likes Received:
    31,540
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol, omg, please tell me you aren't talking about the video I think you are talking about, because that was a blatant lie.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  5. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,348
    Likes Received:
    10,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You started out with an interesting topic worthy of discussion and quickly jump with both feet into yet another cesspool of partisan crap. Only one response:


    flush.jpg
     
  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,469
    Likes Received:
    31,540
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And the gold medal for forumjtes perfectly embodying their forum name goes to. . .

    Ever since my niece came out and ever since my social circle has grown to include several trans people, I'm trying to be a better ally. Thank for this thought.
     
    LiveUninhibited and Bowerbird like this.
  7. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,469
    Likes Received:
    31,540
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Funny that you have no harsh words for the bigots and instead direct your ire at those standing up to bigots.
     
    Lucifer and Bowerbird like this.
  8. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    13,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ....In reality. <---finishing the part in bold. That is what psychology is about. Helping people live in reality. Any "psychology" that does not do that is not psychology. The appropriate medicine would be that which helps a person live in reality. Not delusion.
     
  9. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,348
    Likes Received:
    10,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Got nothing to do with bigots - it's the law and a necessary part of national security.
     
  10. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,469
    Likes Received:
    31,540
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hint: you accidentally responded to the wrong thread. Your word have nothing to do with the topic or the discussion.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  11. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,828
    Likes Received:
    9,579
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is if you don't know that men can lactate too.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  12. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,166
    Likes Received:
    17,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I have no problem with adults doing whatever they want.

    I've seen some Trans folks on TV giving the argument that (I think this is in Canada) where they are entitled to be treated a certain way, like pronouns, and so forth. I have no problem with that sort of thing, myself, but no one is entitled to it.

    I am adamantly against any bigotry, in policy or treatment of others. But, disagreeing with a trans person on what they are entitled to doesn't equal bigotry.

    I'll tell you a story. I was, for years, a wedding photographer. I shot several gay weddings. I found those weddings where both partners wore identical garb, difficult, because, in all my years, my reflexes were based on male and female attire and male / female roles (we pose women way differently than we pose men, together). I never did, but I thought about having a dress code, which would go something like this: "I don't care who wears the dress, or who wears the pants, but my service requires one partner in a gown or dress, and one partner in traditional pants, male attire'. I was hoping that would get them into role playing, and a lot of gays actually like doing it, though they might not so much in normal every day life. That would have made my job so much easier. That would have been legal, though I never did force it on my customers, but I thought about it and that would not have been 'bigotry' because vendors and venues are allowed to have dress codes.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  13. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,817
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Linky???? Don’t tell me - Faux news or maybe Gateway pundit??
    Opps found it! https://www.grandviewresearch.com/i...reassignment surgery,11.25% from 2023 to 2030.
    Hmmmmmmm - doesn’t fill me with confidence as far as its methodology goes
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/23/health/gender-affirming-surgery-study/index.html

     
  14. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,260
    Likes Received:
    49,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Men who get syphilis can often drip pus out of the end of their penis.
     
  15. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,817
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    A embryology text is hardly “brave new science” unless you want to get your “science from an 1850’s Anatomy book. Look up the term “intersex” although now it is DSD. There have ALWAYS been those born intersex it is not new. What is new is the rising rate and instead of blaming democrats, the medical profession or “science” in general how about looking at the effect that plastics and EDCs are having on everyone
     
    Lucifer likes this.
  16. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,817
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Lucifer likes this.
  17. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,260
    Likes Received:
    49,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So why don't you give us some hard evidence on how many of these transsexuals out of a thousand individuals happen to fit the criteria you are speaking of above?

    And just because you can look up something on the Internet and post it here doesn't necessarily mean that it's true.
     
  18. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,260
    Likes Received:
    49,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  19. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    13,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are confusing "intersex" with "transgenderism". The two are completely different. Intersex, actual true intersex is when someone is born with both male and female parts. Transgenderism is when a person is born with JUST male or female parts but "feels" or "believes" that they are of the opposite sex than what they were born as. Do not confuse or conflate the two.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2024
  20. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,817
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Prove to me that our rising rate of transgenderism is NOT attributable to EDCs. There is early research showing it could well be and that gender identity could be hardwired into the brain during foetal development
     
  21. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,817
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Were you reading the right entry?
     
  22. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,637
    Likes Received:
    13,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do lefties not say that gender is a social construct? As such how can it be "hardwired" to the brain during fetal development? Last I knew social constructs are taught and no one is born with it.

    Reminder: Do not confuse/conflate intersex with transgenderism.
     
  23. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,817
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    It is a “social construct” to a degree as at present the neurophysiological evidence is scant. However there is also little to no evidence that gender identity can be moulded by psychological pressure alone.
    https://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/04/biology

    https://www.healthychildren.org/Eng...entity" refers,combination of both or neither.
     
  24. David Landbrecht

    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,030
    Likes Received:
    1,172
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That Americans are so occupied by this gargantuanly miniscule minority is testimony to how superficial and navel-gazing the nation has become. This is all such a non-issue that one can only wonder who is profiting from the resulting turmoil. It certainly is not strengthening the country.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  25. David Landbrecht

    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,030
    Likes Received:
    1,172
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Reality" is precisely the 'issue', and the subjectivity of human perception. Reality for the individual is how he sees things. Reality for society is how most people see things. The individual demanding that society conform to his "reality" is "really" crazy. That individual is condemning himself to suffering.
    Who, as an adolescents, did not wish something essential about him were not different? It is essentially universal to find we are in the wrong body when we're thirteen. In fact, we are, compared to what our adult body will certainly be. It is nothing unique.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2024

Share This Page