"1 in 4 Brussels residents has Islamic roots"

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I thought you hated Zionists?


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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    I am a Zionist. Palestinians and Jews have the right to desire the return to their concept of a homeland.
     
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    Have you decided where you're going yet ? Cyberia's full up, I'm afraid. :mrgreen:
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Then, you support Israel?

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  5. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    I have always supported the nations of Palestine and Israel. Unfortunately, many followers of Israel mumble slurs of hatred in response to such.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    LOL! That's not what I recall.

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  7. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Many tend to go on this retarded chant about how they reject either nation and feel that others should do the same.
     
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    Social engineering? Let's not over-react, shall we?

    Anyways, Brussels is seperate case on itself.

    It's the most diverse city in the entire world -- with the most amount of different nationalities on the globe. The ranking goes as follow: 1° Greater Region of Brussels, 2° Amsterdam, 3° Antwerp, 4° New York City, etc.

    So a quarter ain't that far of from the reality that about 1/4 of the global population is a Muslim.

    However, Belgium was one of the first countries to push for a so-called "integration policy" (although that's not entirely correct since this is a regional matter -- meaning it belongs to the Flemish and Francophone Community Governments).

    Case in point, Antwerp -- we used to have tensions between, what we call, "autochtonen" (= "the indigenous") and "allochtonen" (= "the immigrants") but they basicall disappeared overnight. We've now come in a situation where there are tensions between e.g. Turkish immigrants vs. Kurdish immigrants, etc.

    In Flanders, the biggest worry are now the so-called "Roma" -- and to be frank, I take issue with them too. They seem to come from the jungle or something. Seriously. They let their kids run around naked, they throw their trash on the street,... In short: they have no manners whatsoever...

    On a personal side, the "Islamic" immigrants that live here in my town are basically Westernized: they drink, go partying, eat pork after a night out clubbing, etc. They just have to keep up the "islamic" facade for their parents.

    In some sense they actually over do it -- the girls have way to much make up on. I believe this is because a lot of them have the "Iranian/Jewish nose" thing going on -- a lot of Arab women have this too. And the boys over do it too, in my opinion: they look gay (emo-ish) or to "metrosexual" in general. The guys care to much about their appearance IMO.

    And I'm actually gay... so go figure.

    Not to mention a lot of them go to Catholic schools anyway...

    To close: you won't hear me say anything positive about Brussels fast since I think it's a mess -- but here in Antwerp I think everybody is just fine...
     
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    What the hell, AbuSina?!

    Comments like this (1) don't help and (2) don't make sense either.

    Explain yourself, please.

    Thanks.
     
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    Great up to date summary, Janpor! Thanks!
     
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    You're welcome, Sadanie.

    Although, something bad and really spooky is a fringe group called: "Sharia4Belgium".

    These people scare me, and a large part of the Muslim community say this group doesn't speak for them -- but when you hear newsreports of a 17 y.o. that died because her parents ordered an Islamic excorcist ritual because their daughter was a lesbian... I'm asking myself some serious questions.

    Anyways, a report on Sharia4Belgium from the program "Terzake" on Canvas. You might have to double-click so you can watch the video on the website of YouTube itself to activate the subtitles by clicking the text balloon.

    They are basically using liberal-democracy against liberal-democracy. Scary.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFivtXdWX3I"]Sharia4Belgium[/ame]
     
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    Yes, that is scary!
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that's right- social engineering. Is that too much of a stigma to bear?


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    Here is my take on Belgium. Flanders to the Netherlands, Wallonia to France. Belgium was a bad idea. As we speak they still don't have a government because they can't agree on anything because they have nothing in common. As for the Muslim issue.. This is something Europe needs to get a hold of. Why is Nationalism so demonized in today's world? Every country in the world has national heroes and more often than not, they were nationalists. Politicians, Generals, etc etc. The American forefathers were Nationalists... The entire Muslim question in Europe comes down to identity. Do you want to be a German, a Frenchman, An Italian, a Dutchman... or do you want to be a Moroccan, an Iraqi, A Persian A Saudi.. You can't have people in a host country who refuse to assimilate into that nations culture, language etc. This spawns resentment, violence, hatred, etc. etc. Especially when its on religious terms. This is fact. History if saturated with examples. As an example i will use Jews, pre-ww2. You could say that, at least in part, that Jews have been so hated throughout history because they stuck out in their respective nations. They didn't assimilate. This is why I think a Jewish state is a great idea although I don't necessarily agree with the location of it for practical purposes such as security. Most of the world's Jews live in the US, Canada or the UK. I'm sure most everybody in those countries would welcome a Jewish state carved out of their territory. Why try to carve a state out of a land surrounded by enemies where your population is under a constant threat?... when you can have a larger, happier Jewish state living in friendly conditions somewhere else? (people in high places are religious zealots and have an agenda but that is for another discussion).

    So back to the original point. Either Free Wallonia and Flanders or Unite Flanders with the Netherlands and Wallonia with France because Belgium as a nation was a bad idea from the start and the local populations need to somehow reclaim their rich centuries old heritage and defend it from encroachment and colonization from non-assimilated ethnic peoples. (good example of what happens when you don't: Texas)

    ....and that is my take on that.
     
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    :omg:

    Judge, you aren't making much sense as of late.

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    I question whether the Europeans even have enough of a spine to do anything at any point. Yes, mass deportations are going to have to happen at some point if they wish to keep Europe and European culture alive, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities for the Euros to simply roll over and let these Mujaheddin Islamonazis take over their countries completely.

    It's the most fascinating story of cultural suicide the world has ever seen. Too bad Western Civilization has to die in order for such a study to take place.
     
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    It seems this could solve a very old problem. Before, the Belgians have been arguing over where Brussels actually belong, Flanders (geographically) or Wallonia (population-wise). Instead, Brussels ends up as an own emirate ;)
    Really, people eventually adopt to their surroundings, it just takes time.
     
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    Wasn't that the Indian Nations signing peace treaties with the Union ?
     
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    The whole quote

    " and we will pour over their white bodies like lava from the volcano burning them into ashes and the children we shall skin alive and eat raw from their flesh. Their white women we shall smite down with rolled up copies of the Washington Post and Le Monde and their cries will be a sign of great victory, their blood a sea of revenge, and as we march through their streets we will let down all the tyres of their cars and their bicycles in Holland so they cannot escape our vengeance. If they convert to Islam then we will spare them but if they refuse they will taste the mighty iron fist of the brown eyed man down their throats. This is our duty and a command. and will be just one of the tasks set for us from the black president from the land of the genocide of the ancient native navajo who shall appear in the end days to be our saviour. The false messiah will be conquered"



    there are more chapters but you might get too scared and not be able to sleep tonight if I put them here :mrgreen:
     
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    I fear that there are many facts of life some will never understand.
     
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    You mean like the kind of spine Breivik or the NSU had? I hope not!

    The last mass deportations Europe has seen has left a bit of a bad taste in our mouth. Western civiliyation has developed since then in most parts. Of course there are some people who will never learn, these days you will mostly find them on xenophobic and islamophobic blogs and forums where they spew hatred that puts the Stuermer to shame.
     
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    He could always come to America. This is how we do it:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUHAEvbf_I4"]Mossberg 500 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Egyptians are starving. :)
     
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    No, you're recalling circumstances pre-Patriot Act and border fences. The US of AIPAC is a xenophobic and paranoid country today.

    Who's the poor old sod in your video ?
     
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    Mitt Romney.
     

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